Defending the Truth

Wow Grace, I have to agree with you here. They already hate us. If they are so appalled by torture, perhaps they should stop beating their wives and subjecting them to female circumcism. It would be good if they would stop the suicide bombings too. Of course, it's always America who's the villian and oppressor.

Well at least we have that

Yea, and by the looks of it, its going to be a hard lesson to learn.

Yes, especially since the current president refuses to step down after an overwhelming majority want him out. Can anybody say "more violence?"

Wow. I really have to tear into this inanity....

If waterboarding is such a weak measure, why would it be effective against the type of Islamist extremist who's willing to be a martyr for a cause?

So America didn't fund and arm Osama ibn Laden? They didn't sell weapons to Saddam Hussein? They haven't had a policy of intervention, since the end of World War II, in the middle east? I really, really detest this idea that 9/11 was an attack out of the blue. It was a response. Not a justified, but it was a response nonetheless and suggesting that this fabricated "War on Terrorism" is something that America reluctantly went into is ludicrous and shows your ignorance of world history. Seriously, read a ******* book other than Bible for once.

No, you went to Iraq to disarm Weapons of Mass Destruction. Which didn't exist. Remember? Why do you allow your government to rewrite history that you lived through? I don't understand that. Your government is not your lifeblood, it's not your identity. You don't need to accept their lies to be a patriot. Your own founding fathers have suggested exactly the opposite, in fact.
What, exactly, did "PC Folks" stop the True and Righteous from doing? Nuking civilians like in Japan?

If its so terrible, why do we do it to our own service people??? There willing to Martyr for there cause if its a quick death, like blowing your self up. But feeling like you are slowly drownding, is a whole different ball park.
I never denied that, read the whole post.
Yes, it was a unjustified responce that resulted in the deaths of 3000 American civilians, Because we wont let them commit the next holocaust, Which they have already tryed 3 times now.
The fact that you think the war on terror is fabricated basicaly means your completety outta touch with nearly the entire outside world. I never said we went in reluctantly, I just said they drew first blood, and Im right. The fact that you want to ignore and lay down to this enemy shows YOUR extreme ignorance to world history
Nearly every goverment in the world believed he had WMD's, Not just us. Its Saddams own fault that he was invaded for that reason, if he had been striagh with the nuclear inspectors, and not gave them the run around for months, he would have never been in that position to begin with. How soon we forget the highly suspisious(sp?) movements by Saddam for months leading up to the war. HE WANTED people to think he had these weapons.
They are my own observations, the goverment has told me nothing. Its more than obvious your left " pull out and surrender " policy is derived from the liberal media. I have never seen a people so willing to lose a war, no matter the results. You think leaving Iraq isnt going to result in the slaughter of millions of Iraqies?? Actualy thats what you WANT to happen, so you can point the finger back at your own country. You WANT to fail.

Of course not, Jesus is my lifes blood, Christianity is my identity.
Actualy the way I see it, me and PN here are the only ones thinking with our own opinion. Yours is the popular one, not mine. Yours is the one that is printed in every news paper and on every news channel. Your the one who's been brain washed.

LOL, Nice try to change the subject, but I dont think we nuked Japan in this war against Iraq. HYPERPOLE

Listen, America is my home and I love it. I have no love for a people who subjugate and suppress any of it's citizens. But I don't want America tricked itno becoming one of them. Saudi Arabia may be our "ally", but they are in the top 5 of the worst offenders. And it is only the Saudi Royal family and ruling class that we are allies with, not the population. Because they hate us. We have military presence in the most holy of their lands. That is the biggest of offenses to their culture. Noone from Iraq attacked us on 9/11. 15 of the highjackers were from Saudi Arabia.

Because he had to keep an appearance of strength due to Iran. Plain and simple.
If need be we can go take a look back into history and find when this all truly became an issue. Anyone ever hear of T.E. Lawrence? You know, Lawrence of Arabia. That period in history is when the hatred of the west began in earnest. Why? Because of lies and trickery on the part of the west, which to this very day is causing problems.

You can still love your country, without being okay with the many, many thousands of unnecessary deaths it has caused. I love my country, but not a corrupt and imperial government lying to it's people in order to ensure access to a dwindling supply of oil, while exponentially increasing the wealth of those who contributed to the Bush campaign. There are better ways to go about securing future American stability.

It doesnt change the facts on the ground, nor does it mean we can be blamed cause there wasnt WMD's.
That situation has NOTHING to do with today.
True, but you cant still love this country and be ok with the thousands killed in the WTC. You cannot still love this country and not want to defend her right to sovernty(sp?) against terrorist groups who want nothing more than to destroy us. Oh thats right, those people arent real
Corrupt? yes it is, and ALWAYS has been, wether run by Rep, or dems but we are not a imperial nation. If we were, we would be in Iran right now as well.

I agree though that there are better ways to secure Americas future. I think we have the tech right now to cut our need for oil dramaticaly, but every president over the last 80 years has been in bed with the oil companies.

However, the war on terror isnt going to go away by doing nothing.

Do you want to attack SA?? I thought the problem was that we shouldnt be trying to solve the worlds problems?