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Old 03-09-2007, 09:03 PM   #51 (permalink)
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yes. Look at it this way. In communism, the government is in control. Congress, not the president, is in total power. They set the standards for schools, laws, state governments, and much more.
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That doesn't really even make sense. Have you actually read any Marxist or Engels literature?
I don't think he has.
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Old 03-09-2007, 09:09 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Communism has its good sides.

You don't have to worry about money

Same standard for everyone

High growth rate in the country (Stalins Regime 1948-1955 had 20%+ growth)

Lots of occupations such as SEO worker, taxpeople, bank-mans wont be needed

Unemployment = 0%
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If I stole something from you, you can call a policeman and have me arrested. The law will punish the thief, and the government will return to you the stolen property, because the law forbids stealing. It says that no one has a right to take anything from you without your consent. But your employer takes from you what you produce. The whole wealth produced by labor is taken by the capitalists and kept by them as their property.
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yes. Look at it this way. In communism, the government is in control. Congress, not the president, is in total power. They set the standards for schools, laws, state governments, and much more.
No, in communism the government isn't in control, the people are. I mean, Marx couldn't be more clear when he quite literally says that the entity we know as the government will wither away and will be rendered obsolete.
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No, in communism the government isn't in control, the people are. I mean, Marx couldn't be more clear when he quite literally says that the entity we know as the government will wither away and will be rendered obsolete.

The government is the people. But in todays world it has turned into property of capitalism not a service to the people.
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Capitalism is controlled by certain individuals who could easily throw this country to the dogs. If the government was made for the people...why isn't it doing its job.
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Communism has its good sides.

You don't have to worry about money

Same standard for everyone

High growth rate in the country (Stalins Regime 1948-1955 had 20%+ growth)

Lots of occupations such as SEO worker, taxpeople, bank-mans wont be needed

Unemployment = 0%

The fact that everyone isn't eqaul is what makes this country great. Equality..no i don't want what the poor have...I want wha the rich have...I don't want to share...i want to have a shit load of money.
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The fact that everyone isn't eqaul is what makes this country great. Equality..no i don't want what the poor have...I want wha the rich have...I don't want to share...i want to have a shit load of money.
Your greed isn't a valid argument.

Plus, in communism you won't have what the poor have, you will be for the most part what we consider middle class.
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Your greed isn't a valid argument.

Plus, in communism you won't have what the poor have, you will be for the most part what we consider middle class.
Whereas I agree that his greed is certainly a piss-poor argument at best, I can not say that I honestly believe that a communist system is capable of sustaining everyone at a middle-class level. Perhaps I am merely more pessimistic about the human condition than you.
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