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08-14-2007, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by waitingtables Aside from letting my representatives know what I think they should be doing, I have attended three rallies to bring awareness about the genocide in Darfur. One in Washington DC, one in Central Park and one near my home town that was much smaller. I still can't get over the extremely heinous condtions these people are forced to deal with every day. My heart goes out to them and my anger grows daily. | As cruel as this may sound, I bet the VAST majority of Americans don't give a ripshit about genocide in Darfar. Your rallies are a waste of time. If you manage to collect money for the people in Dafur during these rallies, there is a fat, sweaty, corrupt dictator who thanks you for funding his new palace. |
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08-15-2007, 05:24 PM
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Level up: 57%, 187 Points needed | | No, no money collected goes to the President of Darfur. It all goes to relief and refugee camps. And you may be right about Americans not giving a crap, but that doesn't influence my feelings about genocide. |
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08-15-2007, 10:32 PM
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Level up: 18%, 31 Points needed | | Personally, I have been involved with different types of
movements. Including Affirmative Action,Against the
latest 4 Conflicts & Wars (From Viet Nam to Iraq) held
in Washington D.C, and in Lansing my state's capital.
I have traveled around the global with Human Rights
organizations & groups, and have been involved with
both Million Men marchs. Most marchs isn't always
about if they worked or not, but its about making a
point, and I do believe that the message is delivered.
I have been to protests and rallies where they have
become racial battlegrounds, due to the fact that
one side did not agree with the otherside, and if
they wasn't racist they was all about political issues.
To Rallie or Protest is a rights to voice an opinion on
a subject matter regardless to if the message was
taken or not. At least there was an attempted to get
the message across. The problem of America is most
of us do not get involved with rallie or marchs unless
we (personally) benefit from the march or rallie.
I am going to Washington next month to join others
from around the nation for Safe Environmental Water
use, and Human Rights Against High Water rates.
Some Rallies & Marchs should take place in order to
let people know that we have rights, and again its
a chance to show concern. |
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08-16-2007, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by waitingtables No, no money collected goes to the President of Darfur. It all goes to relief and refugee camps. And you may be right about Americans not giving a crap, but that doesn't influence my feelings about genocide. | Your money will never make it to the refugees. The dictactor and/or the warlords will get to it long before it makes it to the suffering. You are actually making the genocide worse without even realizing it. |
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08-16-2007, 09:44 AM
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Level up: 57%, 187 Points needed | | I'm sorry, but you are incorrect about that.^^ And there is no way I'm making the genocide worse by supporting NGO's that are helping the displaced population. It doesn't in any way go through the Sudanese government. Perhaps you should research your facts before making assumptions. |
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08-16-2007, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by waitingtables I'm sorry, but you are incorrect about that.^^ And there is no way I'm making the genocide worse by supporting NGO's that are helping the displaced population. It doesn't in any way go through the Sudanese government. Perhaps you should research your facts before making assumptions. | Perhaps you can offer some decorating ideas for the dictator's new palace if you really want to help. |
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08-16-2007, 10:11 AM
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Level up: 57%, 187 Points needed | | And perhaps you could get a clue on what your opining about before you mock someone. |
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08-16-2007, 10:21 AM
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Former Central African Republic leader Jean-Bedel Bokassa: "We ask the French for money. We get it, and then we waste it." |
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08-16-2007, 10:26 AM
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Level up: 57%, 187 Points needed | | I'm not French. And I didn't give money to governmental programs. |
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08-16-2007, 10:31 AM
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Points: 12,932, Level: 74 | Level up: 75%, 318 Points needed | | From a Mother Jones magazine article ( Mother Jones is a very liberal magazine)
The anti-aid argument certainly has some validity. Africa, after all, received some $450 billion in aid during the Cold War, but its GDP declined 0.59 per year between 1975 and 2000. And as with Ronald Reagan's "welfare queens," horror stories abound: David Rieff recently published a piece in the British magazine Prospect explaining how $100 million in famine aid to Ethiopia in 1985 merely bolstered the country's Stalinist regime and prolonged civil strife and famine. Other arguments against aid typically surface: it only throws fattens the wallets of corrupt regimes, that there's not enough accountability, or that it's better to give countries a hand-up than a hand-out. Meanwhile, since World War II much of East Asia appears to have used trade, not aid, to launch itself on the high arc of prosperity |
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