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| Well, my response just before this one was off the top of my head. IF you want the facts and not propaganda that Arabs have been handing out since the beginning of time, you can refer to this website for the historical timeline of the area. If Katczinsky doesn't like this information, he can always cling to the false information he's been fed. Most die-hards do. I prefer to know the facts...not some selected "facts" of those it's been proven to have an agenda. Anyway, how did my thread on Ron Paul turn into a Middle East war zone? Oh! I remember. Grace was saying that the Bible says that ALL the nations in the world will soon turn on Israel. So....I ask Grace. Did you ever think that America might not be around to protect Israel? Here's my belief: The little land in Israel is not the only country in the world that the Bible refers to when it says "Israel". Undoubtedly, in 1948 when they chose the name, it was because of their forefather Jacob whose name was changed by God to "Israel". But believe it or not, Grace, we, in America are Israelites. The U.S. is the House of Mannaseh. There were 10 tribes who migrated north after their Assyrian captivity and spread into Europe and beyond. Here is a chapter from Prophecy Fulfilled: God's Hand in World Affairs: Does the Bible Mention the USA and UK? Abraham was promised that his descendants would be as the sand on the seashore (Genesis 22:16–17). This promise was passed to his grandson, Jacob. God changed Jacob’s name to Israel, and told him his descendants would include a “nation and a company of nations” (Genesis 35:10–12). In his old age, Jacob passed these great promises on to his grandsons, Ephraim and Manasseh (Genesis 48:15–20). These promises were not just to be “top dog” in the Middle East. The descendants of Israel were to be “high above all nations” (Deuteronomy 26:19). Where and when did God fulfill these promises? The kingdoms of David and Solomon were great, but did they fit this description? No! Although Solomon’s kingdom was probably the wealthiest of its day, it was a single nation, not a “nation and a company of nations.” Furthermore, its size and population were very small compared to the Chinese empire at the time. Since Solomon, no nation headquartered at Jerusalem could claim to be “high above all nations.” Has God forgotten these many promises over the long years? Certainly not! The answer is found in 1 Kings 12 and 2 Kings 17, 24 and 25. After the death of King Solomon, Israel and Judah became separate nations and are still separate today! Israel was conquered by Assyria, and then Judah was conquered by Babylon, more than 100 years later. Both were deported, but only a portion of the nation of Judah returned! It is a fascinating story, too long to tell in this booklet, but the facts are there. The modern-day nation calling itself “Israel” is really the descendant of the ancient kingdom of Judah—the Jews. The ancient kingdom of Israel lost its identity and is now “as the sand which is on the seashore”—the U.S., Britain, Australia, Canada and much of northwestern Europe. The biblical and historical evidence is there, though many prefer to ignore it. Together, we are the physical descendants of the biblical patriarch Israel. The Almighty will rebuke and chasten us for our mounting sins, just as He does every son He loves (Hebrews 12:6). Last edited by Observer; 01-31-2008 at 03:59 PM. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| New information for Katczinsky: ARABS ARE THE ONES ENCROACHING ON ‘THE LAND OF THE JEWS’ AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND What one notices all over the Media… is that some pro-Arab reporters are bent at manipulating facts, are also trying their best with a premeditated intent to entice the readers to some revisionist historical data. One of the myths connected to the Arab Israeli conflict, is that Israel and the whole of "Mandatory Palestine" before it, was stolen from the Arabs as a result of "Imperialist Machinations," and was settled by Alien Jews... When one reads, contentious statements, i.e. quote: "Israel sits on the Arab land of Palestine, inhabited mostly by émigré Jews who had never set a foot in Palestine." Unquote… The reader is under the impression that such an assertion is accurate in every aspect, and, has received blessings and approbation from the enlightened communities of the world. Nothing is further from the truth… Jews are not Aliens to their Land, (The Land of Israel from Time Immemorial)…! History proves that, Archeology proves that! "Jesus the Jewish prophet" (accepted as such by the Muslim religion), was born there whilst Judea and Israel (two Jewish Kingdoms) were under the yoke of the Roman Empire. The Arab speaks Arabic the foreign Language of the Arabian Peninsula... [Arab = Arabia] does it ring any bells? The Arab practice Islam the Religion of Mohammed... which started with Mohammed in Mecca and Medina (Arabia) in the Seventh Century AD... does it ring any bells? Arabia is now called Saudi Arabia on the name of the Dynasty of Ibn-Saud from the Nejd (Central Arabia)... doesn't it ring LOUD & CLEAR! The Arabs before Islam… were nomads and polytheists, isn't this a fact? The Jews claim Israel through History and Archeology! A proof… that even the Americans cannot subscribe to in their own realm... On the other hand, the Arabs claim to Palestine is TENUOUS/FLIMSY/ WEAK at best, has no substantiation whatsoever in Archeology to back and sustain its claims… The only vestige that would substantiate their respective passage through it… is a Mosque on the holiest site of Judaism. Here are some statistics (AD=Anno Domini = CE=Common Era -- BCE= Before Common Era) Israel Rule 1447BCE - 587BCE = 860 years Babylon Conquest 587BCE - 540BCE = 47 years Israel Autonomy (Under Persian rule) 540BCE - 163BCE = 377 years Revolt of the Maccabees 163BCE - 143BCE = 20 years Rule of the Hashmoneans 143BCE - 37 BCE = 106 years Jewish Autonomy (Under Romans) 37BCE - 637CE = 674 years. Total = 2084 years Less 47 years of Babylon conquest - 47 years TOTAL JEWISH RULE OVER ITS LAND - 2037 years Rule of the Caliphates. 637CE - 1072CE = 435 years Thus during the whole period of recorded History, Palestine was never ruled by the Arabs of Palestine. The Rule of the various Caliphates (KHILAFAH), a Foreign Moslem Rule and NOT necessarily Arab, extended over a period of 435 years. Seljuk’s Rule (Turkmen) 1072CE - 1099CE = 27 years Crusader Rule 1099CE - 1291CE = 192 years Mameluk (slaves) 1291CE - 1517CE = 226 years Ottoman Turk 1517CE - 1917CE = 400 years British Mandate 1918CE - 1948CE = 30 years Israel 1948 to date | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| For Grace: An Open Letter to the Jewish Community on behalf of Ron Paul by Walter Block I think you'll like it! | |||||||||||||||||||||
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