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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,850 Country: ![]()
| Well, nutty, I don't think that prostitution should be illegal either. I consider it a victimless crime. And I would commit a crime as a last resort, but I would still commit one, if I absolutley had no other means to feed my kids. So would anyone, I think. I'm not talking about murder here. I mean things like prostitution, or stealing a meal from the grocery store. And I can't defend drug dealers either, but somehow I don't see much difference between that, and pharma companies doping our kids in the name of medicine as too much different. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psalm 119:105 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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And I seriously doubt whether that is the reason why most prostitutes get into prostitution. More like greed and laziness. Did you see the Diane Sawyer documentary last week about prostitution? Many of the women had a very businesslike attitude and saw prostitution as a way to pay off student loans, buy a house, etc. Including one former nurse who could make more in one hour than she could in a week as a nurse. Greed and laziness. As for children and prescription drugs that is obviously far more regulated and under the control of the parents. Unless you think that drugs should be prescribed for children without the knowledge of the parents (c.f. abortion)? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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It sounds nice to say that we would do all we could to provide for our families. But doesn't that include seeking every venue available; before we even think about commiting crimes? I am actually starting to see why you sometimes think the way you do in certain areas; although I still can't see or understand your need to insult those who disagree with you. The "there is no help out there for me" argument by women (sometimes)gets tiring. It gets to me the way the "White man has everything, and we have nothing" argument some Blacks constantly spout does. I'm no better than anyone else in this world; but I have found one thing to be true: "All problems have solutions; if one is willing to seek that solution". I know it sounds cynical of me to say that. Being financially secure now is only because I was taught constantly by my parents to keep seeking every dream or material thing I ever could want. And that it does no good to sit around and cry about things; but that it should push me even further to achieve. This doesn't mean I can speak from a woman's perspective- even less from an abused woman's. The most I could offer in that area would be to seek counselling; and then to start putting your life back together.It will not be quick or even easy to do so, but I hadn't heard (or been taught) that life was supposed to be easy. Now, I'm not trying to berate women as a whole; or even in particular. But I will never, ever use my son as a reason to commit a crime. But I will always see him as my reason to keep pushing myself to achieve. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,850 Country: ![]()
| I highly doubt that these women are running to prostitute themselves before they have exhausted other possibilities. And I wasn't sanctioning commiting crimes before seeking every alternative that might provide a solution. As far as greed and laziness, that could be said of any number of professions, held by both men and women. Isn't that the American way? Not my way, but this country rewards those who do whatever is necessary to succeed, no matter the profession. It's called capitalism. Drugs are provided to children everyday without parents being given proper information about informed consent. And parents happen to listen to doctors without researching anything themselves, that is a mistake. Doctors are rewarded by the very pharma companies I spoke of, for giving out their medications. A scam is a scam, whether it is legal or not. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Council Member ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey Gender: ![]() Posts: 1,850 Country: ![]()
| That could be said of any issue. There are always some who do things out of greed. But the majority do it for the same reasons that I waitress, least amount of hours for the money. And I don't think that Gary's article addressed abuse in a woman's background, did it? Some women realise that they have an asset, or a product that is in demand, and they market it. That is capitalism, and it should be legalised. That doesn't make someone lazy, just smart. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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While I wish no abuse on any woman; and totally sympathize with any whom experienced this- I still must revert to my original statement. It will not be easy or quick; but a woman in such a position must seek help immediately; so that she might salvage her self-respect before all is lost. There are a myriad of resources out there, and there shouldn't be any hesitation to use them. Maybe that's the key phrase here-quick. Forget about it; it will not be a quick process. The end result is what's important here, not the speed at which it's achieved. But I must repeat myself again: Two wrongs do not make a right! Not to sound condescending here; WT, but until differing laws are passed; prostitution is still a crime in every state that I'm aware of. You might think of this as victimless; but society is a victim of every crime, no matter what the crime is. This is why any prosecutors represent "The People of...", or "the State of..." | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Not all examples of capitalism are moral. Slave trades used to market their assets. Drug dealers market their assets too and the end result is untold misery, broken families and death. I'm amazed how eager you are to try and justify women's callous exploitation of men, whilst simultaneously whining about "abuse"! Why aren't you concerned with all aspects of abuse? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Since the IRS has long been known to prosecute those whom falsify their income tax returns; I wonder if Ms. Dupree has listed (or will list) any or all her icome from these sessions with Spitzer on her taxes? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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