Rod

I came across this article and it just confirms why I will not cast a vote in favor of Obama.
Creative accounting whether it is an election, banker, corporation or other is not acceptable.

Rod

I had heard that Obama denies Jesus Christ as the only way to the Father. So I went back and did some searching on my own to find if this was true. Personally I do not like hypocrites that are willing to use people of faith for little more than their own gain. the Word of God does not change and people cannot change the Word to fit their own agenda.

forester814

I don't either.

So you didn't vote for Bush then?

He really used and abuse the religious right, not once, but twice.
I don't understand why they keep falling for it.

Rod

I'll be the first to say yes I did vote for Bush. Not for the reasons you may think though. I do not care for Carl Rove either. Who is by the way now pushing the Obama agenda.

Katczinsky

LOL, that last bit certainly is news to me. Incidentally, Karl Rove (as a self-described 'agnostic' as I understand him) certainly doesn't believe in the divinity of Christ, and as a Republican election strategist certainly believes the conservative Christian vote as politically expedient to his agenda. Unfortunately you didn't catch this little tidbit when you cast your vote for George Bush. Perhaps it was because you were being persuaded by the same people who you still seem to be stuck on, that is, those who find it convenient to take advantage of the religious by shaping their perceptions of reality by assuming Barack Obama as an 'unChristian Muslim terrorist'?

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forester814

Actually, he's a SECRET muslim, kat. Shhhh... don't tell anyone!

winston53660

I do not think delineating things to a single amount is the best thing.

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Rod

Fact is I also do not care for the Democractic agenda. I don't care to simply work in a factory or the local Walmart, insurance company or bank, union or not. If Democrats truly gave a to do about the American worker they would have pushed for a living wage when they had the chance. I mean shoot when you have control over Congress and the Senate you should be able to produce at least something that will help the average American citizen. Fact is they did not and now many people are losing their homes due to the fact they can't make payments on the tacky wages they are getting and the banks, investors and 401k's suffer the cost.

For all the money paid to medical care and corporations, Pharmecutical Industry, Cargill, Monsanto, Insurance companies and the likes of corporations you'd think the leaders could come up with something besides stuffing their own pocket books, their not!

Democrats have been more inclined to point fingers than do something worth while, while they had the chance in the last four years and they did not. It is much easier to blame one person or two for all the woes that are faced today isn't.

Ask Biden and his son with his cushy job and the others if pushing bank the propaganda is worth it.

Of all this mess I have yet to hear one of them stand up and say hey let us put and end to this finacial fiasco of stripping the poor through the process called credit. The credit card industry is nothing more than a pack of theives preying on the poor and they all have residency in Delaware. 39% fringing percent plus every other excess charge they can add on in the meantime, ain't that a little to much? That is what your Democratic Presidential candidate's running mate stands for.



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Katczinsky

You're preaching to the converted. I don't think the Democrats are a working man's party at all.

The Democrats don't 'have control' over the Congress and the Senate at all. They can barely control themselves.

Correlation does not mean causation. If 'guilt' for this is to be placed on Congress then both parties are responsible.

I have full faith that the free market will only look after it's own profit margins and infinite expansion. A government representative of this system is only capable of not just protecting it, but being subservient to it.

Even if we were to concede you the point of Democrats "having control" (with a mere 'majority', where Joe Lieberman is the tie breaker), which I don't, the only window of opportunity would have been the last *two* years, not four.

Of course, because the Democrats were not able to pass anything, doesn't mean it is indicative of the failure of their ideas had all of them been able to pass. They don't have a dictatorial hold over the legislature, you know...there is the little tidbit about the Republicans blocking nearly everything they attempt to do.

There are some who say that (Dennis Kucinich, for example?), the problem is that you don't want to listen; especially to the consequences of criticizing the validity of the system, because usually that ends up somewhere other than 'free market reform'.

My Democratic Presidential candidate?

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