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Did God inspire the US Constitution?

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Old 08-22-2007, 02:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Did God inspire the US Constitution?
I'm a Christian too and a big fan of America.

But don't you think it's a tad pretentious to suggest that the Declaration of Independence, US Constitution, Bill of Rights etc were somehow God-given?

According to the Bible God's "chosen people" were the Jews, not the Americans.

I sometimes hear right-wing wacko preachers on radio or TV denigrating Canada and Europe as "socialist" and somehow inferior to America with its God-given "rights".

I'm all for patriotism but "gimme a break"!

In any case, most countries have freedom of religion, of speech, etc, and they didn't all have to slaughter an indigenous race to get it?
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Old 08-22-2007, 02:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Israelites are God's chosen, not just Jews. All Jews are Israelites, but not all Israelites are Jews. Now...isn't that an interesting concept?

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Either way, the Bible mentions nothing about Americans being God's chosen people!

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I sometimes hear right-wing wacko preachers on radio or TV denigrating Canada and Europe as "socialist" and somehow inferior to America with its God-given "rights".
America is the "land of milk and honey" that was promised to Abraham and his descendants, Gary.

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What makes you think that?



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In any case, most countries have freedom of religion, of speech, etc, and they didn't all have to slaughter an indigenous race to get it?
When God gives a blessing to a nation, it's not up to us how He does it.
Ask the North American Indian nations if they thought European invaders were a "blessing"!

And why claim a monopoly on God-inspired Constitutions??

It could be taken as offensive to other nations. And it also creates a xenophobic closed-minded, unworldliness that has got America into a lot of bad situations.
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There is a difference between being "inspired by" and "given by" God.
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There is a difference between being "inspired by" and "given by" God.

How would you characterise the difference?

And which one applies to the US Constitution?
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How would you characterise the difference?

And which one applies to the US Constitution?
The US Constitution was inspired - and given by - humans, who may well have been inspired by God.

But I agree with you, Gary; you make a very good point.
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characterize the difference?

the same way I can write a song that was inspired by The Rolling Stones, and having The Rolling Stones give me a song which I'm allowed to call my own.
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The US Constitution was inspired - and given by - humans, who may well have been inspired by God.

But I agree with you, Gary; you make a very good point.
Yeah he does...I'm curious to see where this thread goes..if anywhere. I have always wanted to see a discussion about the beginnings of this country with an eye toward the Native Americans. The whole concept of "These United States" is built on theft, deceit, rape, and a bit o' slavery and murder .
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Yeah he does...I'm curious to see where this thread goes..if anywhere. I have always wanted to see a discussion about the beginnings of this country with an eye toward the Native Americans. The whole concept of "These United States" is built on theft, deceit, rape, and a bit o' slavery and murder .
A bit? I'd say that is a "bit" of an understatement.
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A bit? I'd say that is a "bit" of an understatement.
Tell me about it....
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Well, the natives weren't exaclty lovey-dovey with one another before "we" (Europeans) arrived.

And some Africans were sold into slavery by other Africans.

Human nature is what it is.
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