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| Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics? |
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The huge deal is that our country has a secular government and any one religion should not dominate any other even if it has a majority. Not only that but it would be incredibly healthy for students to receive many points of view about religion and expose them to different ideas. Because Italy is not the secular melting pot that America is... that is why. But even they let their students opt out of religious events. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence. Last edited by hevusa; 09-17-2007 at 11:31 AM. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Yes, I get that. That's why it's sensible to oppose actual religious indoctrination in public schools. (Teacher-led prayers, mandatory Bible study, stuff like that.) I don't think that's what we're talking about. I think what's being discussed here is little observations of holidays -- such as singing Christmas carols, dyeing Easter eggs, or doing something for Valentine's Day. I see those more as cultural observations. Like it or not, Christianity is fairly deeply woven into our cultue. We can't simply ignore it any more than we could expect, say, the Japanese to ignore the influence of Shinto or Buddhism on their culture. How can we respect other cultures if we're afraid of our own? If at first you don’t succeed – try, try again and then quit. There’s no sense in making a damned fool of yourself. – W.C. Fields | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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--- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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First, we are not the only varied culture. Even Japan has a fair amount of cultural sub-groups. Secondly, Christianity is still deeply woven into our culture, and the vast, vast majority are still Christian or identify themselves a such. Again, actual religious indoctrination has no place in school. But traditions such as Christmas carols are deeply ingrained in American culture. To not observe them would be simply foolish and ignorant, IMO. If at first you don’t succeed – try, try again and then quit. There’s no sense in making a damned fool of yourself. – W.C. Fields | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Hell, I find it repulsive that only Christian holidays are honored as national holidays when we are trying to remain secular. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Actually, I know quite a few atheists, Jewish, Muslim and Buddhist people that still celebrate Christmas. To them it has ceased to be about Christianity and has become more of a time for family and friends to come together in the spirit of giving. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| I was almost going to post that. You are right, Christmas may have it's roots in Christianity, but that doesn't mean others can't celebrate it. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Sure, I know a lot that do too... but not at school. --- help me Instant Runoff Voting, you're my only hope --- There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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