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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 09-17-2007, 02:42 PM   #141 (permalink)
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Sure, I know a lot that do too... but not at school.
Why not? Do you have kids?
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Old 09-17-2007, 02:43 PM   #142 (permalink)
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"Japan has a very homogenous population when compared to the melting pot we have in America. We have a lot of personal freedom to observe whatever religious traditions we want on our own free time but in schools where there are muslims, jewish, buddhist, athiest, agnostic, etc etc etc it is not fair to favor only one set of traditions."

Why does it have to be "fair?" We celebrate other cultures in school. Why not our own.. the predominant culture of the land? It's not about "fair," it's about fact. The fact is, things like Christmas carolls are a huge part of our cultural tradition.

Hell, I find it repulsive that only Christian holidays are honored as national holidays when we are trying to remain secular.
Why do you find it "repulsive?"

It's just part of the culture. I'm a non-Christian, it doesn't bother me one wit. I see it as no different than most people celebrating Ramadan if I were in a predominantly Muslim nation, or most people celebrating Passover if I lived in Israel.

There comes a time when you get so hung up on the letter of the law, IMO, you end up pissing in the punch bowl.
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Why not? Do you have kids?
No, but I was a kid in public school at one point.
Religious traditions belong at home and in church, not a public domain where there are many views about religion.

To only honor a set of traditions from one religion sends the wrong message about spirituality and God.
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Why do you find it "repulsive?"

It's just part of the culture. I'm a non-Christian, it doesn't bother me one wit. I see it as no different than most people celebrating Ramadan if I were in a predominantly Muslim nation, or most people celebrating Passover if I lived in Israel.

There comes a time when you get so hung up on the letter of the law, IMO, you end up pissing in the punch bowl.
What makes America different from a muslim nation or Israel is that they are HOMOGENOUS nations, we are not. That is why we should handle things in the public domain differently than those examples.
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Hell, I find it repulsive that only Christian holidays are honored as national holidays when we are trying to remain secular.

You need to learn a little more tolerance in your outlook. Why not enjoy the fact that other people are celebrating something that's important to them?

If most people are Christian then why is it "repulsive" to celebrate their religious holidays?

How about if we inaugrate an Atheists Day, or even a Not-Really-Sure-About-Anything Day?

And hold them both on 25th December? Then you won't have anything to moan about!

You try so hard to be free you end up being more restrictive!
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What makes America different from a muslim nation or Israel is that they are HOMOGENOUS nations, we are not. That is why we should handle things in the public domain differently than those examples.
There are plenty of other countries with "melting pot" populations that don't get their knickers in a twist over religion like America does!
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How about if we inaugrate an Atheists Day, or even a Not-Really-Sure-About-Anything Day?

Now you are on the right track! That would certainly be fair.

But to only honor religious holidays from one particular religion is not secular by any means.
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There are plenty of other countries with "melting pot" populations that don't get their knickers in a twist over religion like America does!
No other country has formed the way America did. That is why we are different and why knickers get twisted.
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I was almost going to post that. You are right, Christmas may have it's roots in Christianity, but that doesn't mean others can't celebrate it.
Actually, despite the inclusion of the word Christ, in the name of its latest incarnation, Christmas and many of the traditions surrounding it are rooted in Paganism.
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No, but I was a kid in public school at one point.
Religious traditions belong at home and in church, not a public domain where there are many views about religion.

To only honor a set of traditions from one religion sends the wrong message about spirituality and God.
Religious traditions? You're joking, right?

We're talking about dressing up for Holloween, passing out little cards for Valentines day and decorating trees at Christmas.

None of those traditions are religious in origin.
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