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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 09-25-2007, 11:05 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Yes. But they have defects. Just like a homosexuals sexual urge. Or my kidneys. Because humans are supposed to piss. I don't.
So if a kidney patient falls in love with another kidney patient, society has the right to refuse to allow them to marry simply because they both have the same 'defect'?


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Old 09-25-2007, 11:20 AM   #32 (permalink)
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I am not sure how a generation is defined or how many generations ago it was that I was 18.

I do know that when I was in that age group (18-22) there was a major movement toward religion amongst my peers.

People tend to think of the "hippies" that came of age in the 60s & 70s as hedonists. But there was a major spiritual element to the counterculture movement.

It was expressed by many through the exploration of what has come to be known as "new age" religion. But there was also a major Christian element known as the Jesus Movement.

Personally, I've never seen hippies as non-religious. (That was fxashun's opinion.) What you just said is exacly what I have heard from MOST of the people that experienced that time period.
Old 09-25-2007, 11:42 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Yes let's discuss that. Make a statement and if it deems a response, I'll give one.
Or you can continue dumb ass questions and remarks. I have one &quot;spaghetti is made of uranium&quot;.
I have a statement. I believe that married men who are always talking dirty about other females can't possibly have the nerve to defend marriage. I also wonder whether society should allow people with major illnesses to rear children. after all, the historic definition of marriage and fatherhood did not include a child having to go it alone without a papa to help him through things. Personally I do not feel that way, but I am not so certain if given the opportunity society would not choose to act against ill people. since they are not natural.
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So if a kidney patient falls in love with another kidney patient, society has the right to refuse to allow them to marry simply because they both have the same 'defect'?
historically marriage was denied to people who were not "whole". so since there are purists on the board who do not believe definitions should ever change, I suppose the answer to your question is "yes". society has a right to refuse them.
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Personally, I've never seen hippies as non-religious. (That was fxashun's opinion.) What you just said is exacly what I have heard from MOST of the people that experienced that time period.

True, hippies tend to be very spiritual, if not always religious in the traditional sense.
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You expressed interest in why that specific age range. I replied that it was simply offered as a comparison.

I was just curious why that specific age group was singled out as if it were significant. It seems to me that younger people always are less religious than older ones.
Like in the UK.
National Statistics Online - Product - Men belonging to a religion: by age: Social Focus on Men
Or in Australia.
Generation Y turning away from religion - National - theage.com.au

It seems the world is becoming less religious. Maybe Gadget is just part of the "new wave" of people that are just as fanatically atheist as fundies are religious.

I don't know that I would say that the younger generation has always been less religious than the previous one. Certainly that has been the case in the last two generations, but I really can't speak for the time beyond that point.

It doesn't seem to me that the hippies were all that religious since they obviously threw quite a few of the moral tenets of Christianity to the wind.. But I was born in 1969 so I don't know.



I suspect that people become 'more religious' as they get older because of an inborn fear of their own mortality. as they approach an age where the immortality complex, that most young people have, wears off, they turn to religion as a way of extending their lives beyond the mortal realm.
That sounds good. I don't know. I know I have seen many very religious people die at my clinic is the last 17 years. So I don't look to religion as the "key". But that's just me.
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historically marriage was denied to people who were not "whole". so since there are purists on the board who do not believe definitions should ever change, I suppose the answer to your question is "yes". society has a right to refuse them.

What about two mentally retarded people who want to get married? I've heard of it happening... although in most cases one, the other or both were sterile, so children weren't even an issue.
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True, hippies tend to be very spiritual, if not always religious in the traditional sense.
Maybe that's the difference. It seems to me it was all about getting high and screwin'. Was it "spiritual" or just an extended trip on LSD and weed?
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So if a kidney patient falls in love with another kidney patient, society has the right to refuse to allow them to marry simply because they both have the same 'defect'?
DAQ.
Why?
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What about two mentally retarded people who want to get married? I've heard of it happening... although in most cases one, the other or both were sterile, so children weren't even an issue.
If they are considered of sound enough mind to enter into the marriage contract, they should be allowed.as an aside, do any of you realize that the very definition and concept of "citizen" has changed throughout history? in ancient Greece a citizen was only a male over the age of 21 with a certain amount of property or money. slowly citizen came to mean all men. but not women for quite a very long, long time.Before 1866 in the U.S.A. blacks were not citizens. it would have been considered unnatural to grant blacks the right to vote. or females, for much longer than that even.I am glad that concepts change, that definitions change. that institutions themselves change.who would not be happy about that?
As the song says, it was a love T.K.O.
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