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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 09-25-2007, 11:55 AM   #41 (permalink)
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DAQ.
Why?
I'm sorry, but a question does not further the debate.
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:56 AM   #42 (permalink)
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Maybe that's the difference. It seems to me it was all about getting high and screwin'. Was it "spiritual" or just an extended trip on LSD and weed?
Oh, there was a hedonistic edge to it, to be sure. I think that's why the hippy movement ultimately failed. But they had some good ideals about truly changing the world and elevating thought. I think those ideals still hold value, and we could take lessons from them.

There's as much hippy in me as there is shit-kickn' redneck. I tend to throw people for a loop that way, when they get to know me in person.
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Old 09-25-2007, 11:56 AM   #43 (permalink)
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Maybe that's the difference. It seems to me it was all about getting high and screwin'. Was it "spiritual" or just an extended trip on LSD and weed?
As one who witnessed it, I say it was spiritual. Once again you are talking about something that you are incredibly ignorant about.
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As one who witnessed it, I say it was spiritual. Once again you are talking about something that you are incredibly ignorant about.
you are absolutely 100% correct

I was there - lived it and observed it

it started many of us on a lifelong search for spiritual information and fulfillment
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If they are considered of sound enough mind to enter into the marriage contract, they should be allowed.as an aside, do any of you realize that the very definition and concept of "citizen" has changed throughout history? in ancient Greece a citizen was only a male over the age of 21 with a certain amount of property or money. slowly citizen came to mean all men. but not women for quite a very long, long time.Before 1866 in the U.S.A. blacks were not citizens. it would have been considered unnatural to grant blacks the right to vote. or females, for much longer than that even.I am glad that concepts change, that definitions change. that institutions themselves change.who would not be happy about that?

I agree with you. The rub comes in deciding what the boundaries should be. Obviously, there's a point at which they are being extended too far.

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I agree with you. The rub comes in deciding what the boundaries should be. Obviously, there's a point at which they are being extended too far.

As I used to say when Dan Quayle was trying to run for President:
&quot;Although the vast majority of Americans have nothing but love and respect for mentally retarded people, we'd really rather not have one in the White House.&quot;
can freedom be extended too far? should the concept of citizenship be curtailed as well? which concepts should be given boundaries and which not? I think people who are not given freedoms should not be taxed either.
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I agree with you. The rub comes in deciding what the boundaries should be. Obviously, there's a point at which they are being extended too far.
The only time that rights should be denied is when they harm others.
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I have a statement. I believe that married men who are always talking dirty about other females can't possibly have the nerve to defend marriage. I also wonder whether society should allow people with major illnesses to rear children. after all, the historic definition of marriage and fatherhood did not include a child having to go it alone without a papa to help him through things. Personally I do not feel that way, but I am not so certain if given the opportunity society would not choose to act against ill people. since they are not natural.
But gay people CAN marry though. So whether gay people CAN'T marry isn't the question. What they want to do is allow themselves to marry the same gender. And there is no "why" that supports humans or any other living thing for that matter coupling. It serves no purpose, ever. I can SAY I love my balloons, but why the hell would I want to marry a friggin balloon. And before you say that's outrageous, I might like to point out that there are a LOT of lonely dudes out there that spend a lot of time with their balloons. Allowing homosexuals to marry is just legitimizing their defect. If we do that, why stop there? If all it takes is a lobby and an active "movement" no telling what's next.

So if you want to keep men from having kids, go for it. Good luck with that.

Want to keep men from talking dirty about women with big boobs. Seriously good luck with that.

But until you do, those people will continue to have children and get married.

Homosexual couples can't conceive so nature took care of that and many places still forbid adoption so they tried. And marriage, well that's still up in the air.
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The only time that rights should be denied is when they harm others.
I agree.

But then you have to debate/decide what "harm" might be.
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I'm sorry, but a question does not further the debate.
Wasn't trying to.
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