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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 10-06-2007, 03:09 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Methinks this legislation could produce, in practice, something with which they didn't foresee.
Facism and the mixing of religion with government ALWAYS produces unforeseen results.

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Old 10-06-2007, 03:10 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Nothing has ever interfered with students practicing their faith. No one has any authority to tell students what they have a right to believe and not believe...until this legislation.

Children have always had that right in every state.
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Hogwash!! Students everywhere have always had the right to pray whenever and wherever they wish...of course, they do have to do it silently during school time.


You may not like it so well when members of other faiths such as Wicca, Hindu, Islam, native American use the schools as a public forum to proclaim their faiths.
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:13 PM   #23 (permalink)
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And, in the case of this legislation, if I didn't want my kids to be forced to hear Christian prayers, for instance, what then?

That's why I said "recognized religions". If you want your child to go through life not encountering any Christians, he/she has no business in school in the first place. Good luck with that.
And, why should they be forced to hear beliefs that I may not agree with any more than beliefs you don't want your kids to hear that you may not agree with?
As long as the belief isn't some one off bullshit that some guy made up at home in a closet, I have no problem. That's why I said the material should be reviewed.
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I don't know if they limit the term "religion" to actual established recognized religions. Just because some group decides to "worship the devil" I'm not sure they should be allowed to do so.
I've never heard of the Satanistas. I don't know. But someone might worship their car, but I don't think that's a religion.
Who appointed you the authority to decide what is a religion? What are "actual established recognized religions"? Did you know that Baptists and Methodists were minority "NOT established religions" in the early days of this country? I suppose in those days you would not have allowed children to be exposed to Baptist or Methodist theology? See the danger in this legislation?
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:20 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Who appointed you the authority to decide what is a religion?
What are "actual established recognized religions"? Did you know that Baptists and Methodists were minority "NOT established religions" in the early days of this country? I suppose in those days you would not have allowed children to be exposed to Baptist or Methodist theology? See the danger in this legislation?
A question paragraph. Whatever. This ain't jeopardy. Make your questions in the form of a statement please.
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That's why I said "recognized religions". If you want your child to go through life not encountering any Christians, he/she has no business in school in the first place. Good luck with that.
Oh, so I guess you have no problem if other parents are forced to have their kids listen to a belief system's prayers they don't agree with just as long as your own kids aren't forced to have to listen to a belief system's prayers you don't agree with?
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Oh, so I guess you have no problem if other parents are forced to have their kids listen to a belief system's prayers they don't agree with just as long as your own kids aren't forced to have to listen to a belief system's prayers you don't agree with?
Another post based on a question. Do you guys know how to make an actual statement? That's MY question.
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Another post based on a question. Do you guys know how to make an actual statement? That's MY question.
Do you know how to answer a question?

That's MY question?
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A question paragraph. Whatever. This ain't jeopardy. Make your questions in the form of a statement please.
Make your questions in the form of a statement?????????
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Old 10-06-2007, 03:36 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Do you know how to answer a question?

That's MY question?
No I don't. But I can debate the hell out of a statement. Get a clue.
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