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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 10-22-2007, 07:18 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The only problem with that is, they dont know who translated the scripture.

How would that matter?

They have returned to the earliest known manuscripts and their own translators have said that the word Jesus used did not mean God. What does it matter who translated it wrong the first time?
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Old 10-22-2007, 08:41 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm no biblical scholar. In fact, I've never read more than a few verses...But it just doesn't make sense to think that the Jesus on the Earth "was" God. I just don't see that as being the case. Maybe I need to read that durn book.

But then again,that's why I'm agnostic. There is plenty about interpretations of the Bible that "make me go hmmm".
Old 10-22-2007, 08:58 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm no biblical scholar. In fact, I've never read more than a few verses...But it just doesn't make sense to think that the Jesus on the Earth "was" God. I just don't see that as being the case. Maybe I need to read that durn book.

But then again,that's why I'm agnostic. There is plenty about interpretations of the Bible that "make me go hmmm".
All the more reason to investigate the matter for yourself FX. Hint, if you decide to do such ask for help from the Holy Spirit/God.
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All the more reason to investigate the matter for yourself FX. Hint, if you decide to do such ask for help from the Holy Spirit/God.
Naaa. I'll pass. I believe my belief in a combination of simple right and wrong, karma, and the 10 Commandments will carry me through. Considering people who have studied the book for their entire lives all come from it with a different "interpretation". My "interpretation" is just to not read it in the first place. It's pretty much the same result.
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Naaa. I'll pass. I believe my belief in a combination of simple right and wrong, karma, and the 10 Commandments will carry me through. Considering people who have studied the book for their entire lives all come from it with a different "interpretation". My "interpretation" is just to not read it in the first place. It's pretty much the same result.
I am reminded of these verses when I see people who truly try follow the Ten Commandments.


"But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people."Jeremiah 31:33

"The elder unto the elect lady and her children, whom I love in the truth; and not I only, but also all they that have known the truth;....................." 2 John Chapter 1
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Naaa. I'll pass. I believe my belief in a combination of simple right and wrong, karma, and the 10 Commandments will carry me through. Considering people who have studied the book for their entire lives all come from it with a different "interpretation". My "interpretation" is just to not read it in the first place. It's pretty much the same result.

Im not trying to give you a hard time or anything like that, so please dont take offense. But biblicaly the 10 commandments are impossible to follow. And as soon as you break one you owe your life to the law. And biblicaly the only way outta that is to accept the gift of salvation through the death of Jesus Christ. You probably already know that, but I just thought I'd bring it up, in case you didnt.
Old 10-23-2007, 06:53 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Im not trying to give you a hard time or anything like that, so please dont take offense. But biblicaly the 10 commandments are impossible to follow. And as soon as you break one you owe your life to the law. And biblicaly the only way outta that is to accept the gift of salvation through the death of Jesus Christ. You probably already know that, but I just thought I'd bring it up, in case you didnt.
Well there ya go...Yet another reason not to read the bible. LOL.

Seriously though. I don't see what there is about the 10 commandments that make them so hard to follow. Especially now that I'm older/maturer and married and not trying to hump anything that moves.

The thing I like about "faith" is that it's whatever you want it to be. There IS no one "truth". If we are wrong, we won't find out until it's too late. And if we ARE just another animal running around on the planet and when we die, that just it, all that religious fervor was just a waste of energy that could have been spent elsewhere.

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Old 10-23-2007, 07:42 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Ive have litteraly years of study on this subject. The Bible clearly teaches Jesus was God in the flesh. But to each his own bro. Believe what you want, America is great that way
ROFLMAO!!!

No it doesn't, but whatever.
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That is in one of the statements Jesus made when He spoke saying, "I and my Father are one" John 10:30
That verse is so often taken out of context, it's sickening.

If you read the verses right after them, he says:

31 Once again the people picked up stones to kill him. 32 Jesus said, “At my Father’s direction I have done many good works. For which one are you going to stone me?”

33 They replied, “We’re stoning you not for any good work, but for blasphemy! You, a mere man, claim to be God.” 34 Jesus replied, “It is written in your own Scriptures[e] that God said to certain leaders of the people, ‘I say, you are gods!’[f] 35 And you know that the Scriptures cannot be altered. So if those people who received God’s message were called ‘gods,’ 36 why do you call it blasphemy when I say, ‘I am the Son of God’? After all, the Father set me apart and sent me into the world. 37 Don’t believe me unless I carry out my Father’s work. 38 But if I do his work, believe in the evidence of the miraculous works I have done, even if you don’t believe me. Then you will know and understand that the Father is in me, and I am in the Father.”

Clearly, he was saying that he and his Father were of one mind.

The Gospels are full of quotes by Jesus where he clearly points out that he is NOT his Father, yet you trinitarians can only find a few verses that you purposefully spin. It's ridiculous.
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ROFLMAO!!!

No it doesn't, but whatever.
I hate to agree with you on anything, but from what I recall in Sunday School, Jesus was the "Son of God". Now that was at least 30 years ago, but I remember that clearly.

But if people can "reinterpret" the Bible to favor their cause, and many have, maybe there is a way to read it where Jesus is GOD.

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