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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 10-26-2007, 08:32 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Yes. That has been a pet peave of mine for years. I had a few great teachers in grade school. I dropped out of highschool because I could not handle the hypocrisy there. Started back into college some years later. The corruption there was more than I could take at that age so I never completed the courses. And it irks me that these type of people have taken such a stance claiming their precepts and theories as truth. Heck they would not know truth if it was pour on them. Blinded by their own pride and corrupt standards they are willing to stifle anyone who comes up against them.

Ive been telling people the same thing for years, and they just look at you like your retarded. Its sad how most of the public doesnt even think to question the educator's today. Maybe this will help open peoples eyes alittle.
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Old 10-26-2007, 08:35 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I thought this would be a hot conversation, looks like they negitive nancy's have been chased away already.
It takes skill to actually debate a subject alone. And while Knot is pretty good at holding her ground, the other person that posted here needs a bunch of people around him for support or he'll start name calling and crying. Then he'll put you in ignore, to his own detriment.
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I guess I'll just bring this back up after the film is out. Maybe others will have something to say then
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I agree that science can be/has been dogmatic and/or twisted for political ends.

That being said, I've never seen a decent argument "disproving" evolution. Most "intelligent design" science is hysterical junk.

I never saw what it was about evolution that gets people's panties in a wad to begin with. It's simply a mechanism, and is in no way, shape or form "anti-God."

It's just a fact -- like gravity -- part of how physical existance operates under the Creator's will.
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I agree that science can be/has been dogmatic and/or twisted for political ends.

That being said, I've never seen a decent argument "disproving" evolution. Most "intelligent design" science is hysterical junk.

I never saw what it was about evolution that gets people's panties in a wad to begin with. It's simply a mechanism, and is in no way, shape or form "anti-God."

It's just a fact -- like gravity -- part of how physical existance operates under the Creator's will.

Its isnt even close to fact. (well some parts of it are) There is a ton of info that disproves much of what evolution teaches. They havent found a single example of a trasitionairy fossil. Not one. Are you a scientist? How are you able to determine what is "Hysterical junk" and what is not?
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I agree that science can be/has been dogmatic and/or twisted for political ends.

That being said, I've never seen a decent argument "disproving" evolution. Most "intelligent design" science is hysterical junk.

I never saw what it was about evolution that gets people's panties in a wad to begin with. It's simply a mechanism, and is in no way, shape or form "anti-God."

It's just a fact -- like gravity -- part of how physical existance operates under the Creator's will.
Why can't it all work together. Couldn't evolution itself be "intelligently designed"? Like the Big Flood wasn't just God making it rain, maybe it was a decent sized meteor hit in the Pacific or something like that.
Like I said before, the symbiosis of everything from the smallest atom to the force that hold galaxies together is too orderly as far as I'm concerned for it to not have had some "help" along the way. It's hard for me to think it's all just random.
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Why can't it all work together. Couldn't evolution itself be "intelligently designed"? Like the Big Flood wasn't just God making it rain, maybe it was a decent sized meteor hit in the Pacific or something like that.
Like I said before, the symbiosis of everything from the smallest atom to the force that hold galaxies together is too orderly as far as I'm concerned for it to not have had some "help" along the way. It's hard for me to think it's all just random.
I believe that Darwinism and Creationism are the same story told in different ways.

Darwinism attempts to fill in some of the detail, but I don't see how it is contradictory at a high level
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I believe that Darwinism and Creationism are the same story told in different ways.

Darwinism attempts to fill in some of the detail, but I don't see how it is contradictory at a high level
I guess we really have no choice since this is all we know, and haven't been around but less than a snap of the universe's "finger", but I think the key will probably not be found here.
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I believe that Darwinism and Creationism are the same story told in different ways.

Darwinism attempts to fill in some of the detail, but I don't see how it is contradictory at a high level

I used to think that as well. After all God said he made man from the dust of the earth. However after closly looking at DNA and how it works, its obvious, at least to me, that evolution is impossible. At least the part of evolution that says a species evolved into another.
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I also have serious problem with the whole "origin of life" theory, but thats a whole other matter.
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