Its the typical Christain sidestep. I know you kept thinking I knew nothing and was shocked to see I know more about the bible then you do...hence the sidestep.

You're not the only ones allowed to get your Kumbahyahyahs out honey.

If you don't want to discuss your position perhaps you'd better go somewhere where everyone agrees with you and leave actual discussion to those able to discuss their position wthout calling other people assholes. I am actually much amused you called me an asshole. It did make me chuckle nice way to have equal love for all people. I assume then you think everyones an asshole.I mean you love us all equally afterall

The Bible is a fabrication designed to give purpose to lives. It often metaphorical and much of it was never intended to be taken as the actual facts of something. In particlular the old testament. I know this because I asked several Jewish people about the book their ancestors wrote, I suggest you do the same if you actually want to understand the Bible. I know people such as yourself think that if I say Noahs Ark is a made up story that somehow it is infered that everything else written in the book is false but that isn't true. So you'll be better able to argue your point in future. It is irrelevant if Noahs story is factually true, because it was never designed to be factual, it was however designed to be a story about how adherring to the word of God and following his instructions can save you. It is also irrelevant if the world was created in 6 days or if the Creation story is factual or really happened, it was never designed to be anything more then a story that reflected the power and might of God.

Why don't you know this?? You clearly need more study because at no pojnt did it enter your midn to think beyond the story and think why and if you did then you need to go to debate 101.

In the end your inability to think outside the square will always show a superficial understanding on the book you are trying to defend. Thanks for playing

I've no idea what you are talking about. No-one really believes another position is valid or else they'd hold that position.


If people can't stand they heat they should follow Grace and get out of the discussion

The world is full of do-gooders but Grace didn't need your help.

And I am very sick of hearing about other peoples Christain beliefs as if they are somehow more important then mine or anyone elses. Its like don;t question her belief..Why the frig not?? Why the hell is she hear then??

Grace has revealed herself to me to not have a loving or sweet heart but rather like most Christains turned to name calling ASAP. Whatever happened to "turn the other cheek"???The name calling just re-affirms my belief of the hypocrisy of many Christains not all of course but usually and most often fundamentalists. I do not believe they understand the intent of the bible hence the bumper sticker slogan type of religion they practice. It frankly makes me sick.."Honk for Jesus"..have some respect...I don't even believe and I find it disgusting and dis-respectful.


You keep telling me about the love of a thing I don't believe exists (God)..have some respect for another persons beliefs. If that is what you want for yourself.

Holy Crap you people and the gay agenda. What just because I think people should be left alone to live their lives?? I think Christains should be left to live their lives and their religion should be kept out of other peoples lives, just as I think gays should do gay things in their bedrooms because that'd actually be respecting other people like Christains claim they do. I have not seen a gay person condemn anyone to an eternity of torment on this board because they happened to be a Christain yet Christains never stop. Make no mistake it is NOT an act of love to condemn people to hell even if you want to pretend otherwise. Basically, anyone that suggests they love all people whilst condemning some people to hell (which in their opinion is the worst possible thing that could ever happen) is not a 'loving' person being a judgemental ass and forcing others to conform to their belief. A belief is NOT FACT. A sin if their is such a thing is a private matter between the person and God (if there is such a thing) and should not be used for any other purpose. When your houses are in order get back to everyone else until then look in your own backyard.

If there was hell which there isn't..its the boogeyman IMO..... Are there any fundamentalist groups who have a charity that is not predicated on the person seeking help comforming to their belief?? No there isn't reaLLY THERE IS NOT ONE but the Catholics will help anyone no questions asked because that is what a Christain does..not that they are perfect either clearly terrible things have occured but they are the closest group to the actual time of Jesus, the oldest Christain religion, they wrote the bible and put it in the order it is now..they are true Christains..the rest of you are lost and grasping at straws IMO...

Did I say you shouldn't share your opinin anywhere?? No you came on and told everyone to go to a place that IN YOUR opinion is a good thing. Everyone was actually discussing their belief except you.

I don't believe for one moment you respect my beliefs but carry on pretending if it makes you feel better. I think you can't think of anything to say in response.


Why are you talking about Tristan?? Is he in this thread anywhere?? Did I mention someone who wasn't posting here?? NO...let me tell you for somone to tell me they googled him and then suggest I do the same thing hsould be mocked for such a boring dull existence he thought about googling a madeup name on the Internet. I'd do the same thing to the same poster if he told me he googled you. Or if you where constantly mentioned in every single post about Christains. It has nothing to do with him being Gay and everything to do with respecting other posters, the guy isn't even posting in the thread and he is freakin mentioned,, get lives!!!! when you guys work our how to respect others get back to me.

Back to the gay agenda you seem to think I have because I think googling Tristan is the act of a purile immature moron...

Nothing is more clear then the Fundamentalist psuedo Christian agenda to turn America into a Fundamentliast Christain Theocracy. The complete lack of respect for America and what we have fought for disgusts me. The lack of respect for other peoples beliefs is appalling. There are countless documentaries in which the leaders of the Fundamentalist movement say this is what they are doing. Gays want to have the same civil rights as straight people. Fundamentalist want to destroy the Constitution and America..if you think I believe Gays are less evil then Fundamentalists you are correct.

I am direct and say what I mean without the need you clearly have to be liked ..if you don't like it that'd be your own personal issue because I have no idea who you are and am not about to change for you. I think you're a 'do gooder' and personally I find that irriatating ..trying to keep people calm for some weird reason...opinions like assholes make lots of noise so let people have their say in the way they want to say it ..its the internet I have no idea why anyone with any adequate level of self esteem would give a rats ass about my personal view of them like I don't care about your personal view of me ....why you even bothered to tell me is a mystery to me. I already assumed you found me unpleasant because you clearly don't get people who aren't kiss-asses..that is actually my opinion of you as we are stating our personal views of each other..

Now I have explained myself to you which I shouldn';t have to do if you actually had any respect whatsoever..lets freakin discuss the topic at hand without your need to try and be on both sides of an argument and if you wonder why I say this go back to your post that started this little sidetrack ..have an opinion and say it...