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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 11-05-2007, 03:11 PM   #71 (permalink)
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If you and I ever meet face to face, we could discuss any damn thing you want.
Kerec me if I'm wrong, but if you and I met, I suggest it's at a strip club. Myt you are welcome to attend as well. That way, it's pretty easy to guess what we'll be discussing. LOL.
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Old 11-05-2007, 03:13 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Please, show me any post where I advocated that.
I invite you to any abortion thread where you have posted your "pro-choice" leanings.
Old 11-05-2007, 03:19 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Christianity has, throughout history, done much cultural genocide to whole people groups. Look at the Native Americans even and the history of "using" religion to clean up one's dirty motives in our history.

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You are calling the genocide of the Indians something done in the name of "Christianity"? You have got to be kidding me.
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You are calling the genocide of the Indians something done in the name of "Christianity"? You have got to be kidding me.


No Fx, I am not kidding you.

Here read these bits on the topic of how Christianity addressed the Native Americans.

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From the book : Flyboys.
p. 12, cont.

"Alexis de Tocqueville, the perspective chronicler of early America, noted that he often heard fine Christian Americans casually discuss the extermination of Indians:

'This world here belongs to us, they add. God, in refusing the first inhabitants the capacity to become civilized, has destined them in advance to inevitable destruction. The true owners of this continent are those who know how to take advantage of its riches. Satisfied with this reasoning, the American goes to the church, where he hears a minister of the Gospel repeat to him that men are brothers and that the Ethernal Being, who made them all in the same mould, has imposed on them the duty to help one another.'"

p. 13, cont.

Teddy (Roosevelt), like so many of his countrymen, found nothing wrong in even the most barbaric American actions. In December of 1864, an audience in a Denver theater applauded wildly as on stage an ordained Methodist minister displayed the results of the latest encounter between the civilized races and the Others. The minister's name was John Chivington - Preacher John. Preacher John was a volunteer in the cavalry. Days earlier, he had led an attacking party to Sand Creek, Colorado, where they had surprised and massacred at least 150 Indian children, women, and old men. The braves had been away hunting.

What elicited the roars of approval from the Denver theater audience was not just Preacher John's tale of "victory" but the grisly evidence. A pile of hacked Indian penises brought laughter. Applause greeted American soldiers who displayed hats over which they had stretched the vaginal skin of Indian women.

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Teddy Roosevelt not only approved of this atrocity, he thought it was one of the single great moments in American history. About the Sand Creek massacre he said, "In spite of certain most objectionable details... it was on the whole as righteous and beneficial a deed as ever took place on the frontier."
Almost the entire West was ethnically cleansed of Indians in the same manner..."

** ** I took the liberty to search for the critical text and copy and paste from Bartcop Reader: Student Travel Services, Family Travel rather than to type it all from my son's book...

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Old 11-05-2007, 03:37 PM   #75 (permalink)
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That's not "Christianity" addressing the situation. That's a bunch of genocidal land grabbing marauders clearing land of unwanted inhabitants.

There are sects of "Christians" that are advocating "gay marriage" even though it is obvious that the religious text that is supposed to guide them forbids it.

Was Teddy Roosevelt a reverend or religious leader? Here's a bit...
Religion of Theodore Roosevelt, U.S. President
"Roosevelt was also affiliated with Episcopalianism."

Figures.

It would be rude to point out that "white people" did those autrocities. Should we deem all "white people" evil, genocidal, sexually depraved individuals from the acts of those people?
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If you have so much respect for your women, why don't you get them out of those stupid sheets and bhurkas. You never know, you might even have a few hotties there.
Well PN, that just goes to show that you have never really bothered to research Pakistan.

I live in Lahore, where seeing a woman in burkha is the exception rather than the rule. Such is the case in most of the PUnjab. All major cities save those in the northern pushtun areas are pretty much burkha less.

Some women feel more comfortable with burkhas.. and peace to them dude.. if that is how they want it they may have it.. but it is not mandated by law, it is not enforced by society and it certainly does not prevent the lahori women from decking themselves up and providing us guys with something pleasant to rest our eyes on.

I mean heck Lahore is KNOWN for how colorfully the girls dress up. And that in spite of being "muslim". And in any case you ought to take a trip to Malaysia , Indonesia or DUbai just to get an idea of how it looks. These places you can see a woman in burkha walk next to a woman in jeans.. it's great.
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Well PN, that just goes to show that you have never really bothered to research Pakistan.

I live in Lahore, where seeing a woman in burkha is the exception rather than the rule. Such is the case in most of the PUnjab. All major cities save those in the northern pushtun areas are pretty much burkha less.

Some women feel more comfortable with burkhas.. and peace to them dude.. if that is how they want it they may have it.. but it is not mandated by law, it is not enforced by society and it certainly does not prevent the lahori women from decking themselves up and providing us guys with something pleasant to rest our eyes on.

I mean heck Lahore is KNOWN for how colorfully the girls dress up. And that in spite of being "muslim". And in any case you ought to take a trip to Malaysia , Indonesia or DUbai just to get an idea of how it looks. These places you can see a woman in burkha walk next to a woman in jeans.. it's great.
I'm in Baghdad Iraq right now and most of the women I've seen are in sheets and head scarves.
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Of greater significance than how they are or are not made to dress, is the oppression and fear the women live with...

READ : AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL

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"The right to life of women in Pakistan is conditional on their obeying social norms and traditions."
Hina Jilani, lawyer and human rights activist


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I'm in Baghdad Iraq right now and most of the women I've seen are in sheets and head scarves.
As I understand it, that's more of a cultural thing, not an Islamic thing.

All the Koran teaches is that a woman should be "modest" in her appearance. Obviously, there's many different ways to translate that.

I've not been around very many Muslim women... but what he said holds true. I've seen some in head scarves, and some who dressed in jeans and t-shirts.
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One day while at Barnes and Noble, seeking to expand my daughter's cultural awareness, I opted to get her a magazine other than the one I usually would get her which is American Girl.

I got her Muslim Girl Magazine.


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