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01-31-2008, 12:52 PM
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01-31-2008, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by highway80west  | This is what happens when you use religion instead of science!
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01-31-2008, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Catus Felidae This is what happens when you use religion instead of science! | I guess so. I read a book about about the Roman Catholic exorcists in Rome. Apparently, they would not be content to kill, unlike the priest in Romania did.
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01-31-2008, 04:57 PM
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Points: 16,625, Level: 82 | Level up: 55%, 225 Points needed | | As horrendous and unconscionable as this exorcism is, it is a rare event.
Think how many people with the mental illnesses as this young woman had, are given drugs by their mental health care providers and then they ( the patients) turn around and commit suicide on those drugs or go from bad to worse in some other way.
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02-03-2008, 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by OhDear As horrendous and unconscionable as this exorcism is, it is a rare event.
Think how many people with the mental illnesses as this young woman had, are given drugs by their mental health care providers and then they ( the patients) turn around and commit suicide on those drugs or go from bad to worse in some other way.
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| Half the time people's depression is purely situational. They go to the doctor and, being the lucrative path for the doctor and the drug companies, get on medicine for a chemical imbalance they don't have, end up becoming addicted, and have even worse problems when trying to get off of it.
As for 'mentally ill' people in general (excluding depression), I'm not sure if suicides under those circumstances are the cause of the treatment, and not the illness. The delusion-fests of exorcisms cause injury and death from the 'treatment' itself. I'll admit that sometimes for some people the only alternative is exorcism. They're bought into the delusion that they're occupied by evil spirits, and usually through the self-reinforcing delusional practice of exorcisms they become 'well again'. If the problem is psychological then maybe it can be 'cured' psychologically.
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02-03-2008, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Katczinsky Half the time people's depression is purely situational. They go to the doctor and, being the lucrative path for the doctor and the drug companies, get on medicine for a chemical imbalance they don't have, end up becoming addicted, and have even worse problems when trying to get off of it.
As for 'mentally ill' people in general (excluding depression), I'm not sure if suicides under those circumstances are the cause of the treatment, and not the illness. The delusion-fests of exorcisms cause injury and death from the 'treatment' itself. I'll admit that sometimes for some people the only alternative is exorcism. They're bought into the delusion that they're occupied by evil spirits, and usually through the self-reinforcing delusional practice of exorcisms they become 'well again'. If the problem is psychological then maybe it can be 'cured' psychologically. |
I dont know Kat. Im not down with 90% of what goes on in the Catholic church, including 90% of the exorcisms. But there are documented cases with doctors involved, that at the least are impossible to explain as far as mental illness. Like that case they made the movie "The Exorcist" from. Obviously the movie was WAY over dramtic, but look at the real case, and there are may things that leave one to wonder. I know you will dismiss it, without listening further, and I respect that, but sometimes things just are what they are. | |
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02-03-2008, 08:07 AM
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02-05-2008, 12:16 AM
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