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| Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics? |
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Parallels between the lives of Jesus and Horus, an Egyptian God | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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Another case involves Luke, who famous archeologist Sir William Ramsey recognized as one of the foremost historians in history, referring to both Paul and Barnabas as apostles in Acts 14:14. Therefore, to throw away the idea of Paul as an apostle you must also throw out both the letters of Peter, a Gospel, and the main historical record of the early Church! And you are wrong that the notion of the Law being superseded wasn't around before Paul. It was prophesied centuries before that the Old Testament or Covenant would be replaced by a new one, and the writer of the book of Hebrews pointed to this very prophecy: Quote:
Again, I can't understand where you're getting this from. You think the following verses show Paul to be a liar? ![]() Quote:
Nowhere does he claim he lies... And Paul wasn't the only one to call himself an apostle. In Revelation 2:2 and 2 Peter 2:1 it refers to multiple false apostles, prophets, or teachers; not just one like you want to make it seem so you can single out Paul. Furthermore, Peter just after saying that backs up Paul's authority by calling him a beloved brother whose writings should be considered among the Scriptures (2 Peter 3:15-16) so it makes no sense for him to be saying otherwise there. And in 1 John 4:1-3, it states the way to know which are false prophets and have the spirit of antichrist are those which do not confess Jesus was God come in the flesh. That description does not fit Paul. As for the Old Testament.... what? The Jews themselves recognize all 66 books of the Old Testament as Scriptures inspired by God, not just 22. I have NO idea where you're getting this from. Source and link, please? | ||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Quote: A link of my own: Osiris. Horus. Jesus. Not Triplets! Quote:
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| Quote: Mission Statement Tekton Apologetics Ministries is committed to providing scholarly answers to serious questions which are often posed on major and minor elements of the Christian faith. We believe in the importance of sound Christian doctrine which is based on a careful exegetical analysis of scriptures from the Holy Bible. We also believe that it is important to incorporate the findings of various theological and scientific disciplines in order to properly assess the veracity of scriptural evidences, and to carefully evaluate issues which are relevant to the Church as a whole. Now Jzye, I realize that for you it's important that any type of reference to prior God-men HAS to be denied or 'proven' as nothing but a myth... Unfortunately for you though, even IF they are myths, they are myths that exsisted prior to the myth surrounding the birth/life of Jesus and are very similar to one another. Which leads anyone with an ounce of intelligence to realize that even if the man himself exsisted, that the stories told to build him up themselves were borrowed from other exsisting God-man stories. And that dear, is what the case is in regards to Jesus. That people borrowed from the exsisting God-man myths to build him up into more then he was. I've no doubt that he exsisted. But I also believe that the stories told about his birth and miracles are also exaggerations on the part of those hoping to create a religion from his human ministring during his lifetime. I realize that as a Christian though, that you need to feel that stories told about other God-men need to be down played or proven 'false', in order to make it appear to those of your mind set that no other God-men exsisted prior or after Jesus and distract your purpose of embracing the exaggerations and myth that created your own faith and followings. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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This is doubtless a personal issue to you as well as to me. But regardless, there are still questions that need to be answered. Yes, I do have my biases based upon personal convictions and experiences, so does the Tektonics site, but so do the atheist authors. The question remains, is there any genuine evidence supporting the claims that Horus or Mithraism were similar to Christianity? Are the claims ones made off conjecture by atheist authors with no grounds in Egyptian literature or archeology, or are they genuine? That is the question that needs to be answered, and regardless of who is making what points or what their intentions are, does not negate the seriousness of that question and its need to be addressed. Scholars and people disagree all the time. What it comes down to is, on whose side does the hard evidence lie? Which way do the facts point? | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| I'll be back with your proof. But you have to realise that the Church and those backing it aren't the only authority on this subject anymore. There are many millions of people who can read, and we don't need them to censor or interpret it all for us anymore. And there is no way that you can convince people that mythology that pre-dates the time of Jesus, isn't true. Simply pick up a good book about mythology and you'll find all the similarities you like. And Ralph, why would I use the scriptures to prove my point, they have been misinterpreted, twisted, and changed in order to back up any argument from the Church. That is my point. Are you arguing that the Church didn't do that? | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Actually, I don't know if the word superseded is the right one to be using, but Jesus Himself did not abide by the entire Law, if you will... He healed on the Sabbath and his disciples walking with him in a field, ate, by picking the wheat on the Sabbath. Jesus came not to keep the Law so much as to show it's fulfillment by His life, even as He declared that all the Law could be summed up by this: Love God with all your heart, soul and strength and to love your neighbor as yourself. OhDear | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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