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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 04-18-2008, 01:36 PM   #121 (permalink)
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Wrong. I approve of laws that are based on whether or not they are constitutional.

That's a real cop-out. The Constitution is wide open to interpretation.

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Old 04-18-2008, 01:37 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Did I say it was immoral? I said there are victims, and this is why it is illegal. Don't pit words in my mouth, thank you.
So do you believe victimhood is immoral?

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Yes, you do, when your points are lacking in substance. Or when you try to dodge a point with some point of your own that diverges from the actual comment that you in essence do not respond to.

You have a tendency to repeat points after I have overturned them, as a means of avoiding admission of defeat.

Old 04-19-2008, 01:03 AM   #124 (permalink)
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So do you believe victimhood is immoral?
Please show me where I said that.
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Please show me where I said that.
You implied it.

Unless you think that we have laws to protect victims for reasons other than morality.

In which case you need to explain how that can be.

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I don't think that you've overturned any of my points. I stand by my above statement. And the Constitution is open for interpretation, but not wide open. The legislature passes laws and if the laws are constitutional, they remain, if not, they don't. Our main problem is that some people don't abide by the spirit of the document, they wish to use it to discriminate against those who have a different philosophy then they do.
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Old 04-24-2008, 07:08 PM   #127 (permalink)
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I don't think that you've overturned any of my points. I stand by my above statement. And the Constitution is open for interpretation, but not wide open. The legislature passes laws and if the laws are constitutional, they remain, if not, they don't. Our main problem is that some people don't abide by the spirit of the document, they wish to use it to discriminate against those who have a different philosophy then they do.

If the people who wrote the constitution knew it would be used to defend the slaughter of millions of babies, they probably would have torched it. "spirit of the document"?? As if.
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Old 04-27-2008, 05:48 PM   #128 (permalink)
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It isn't Grace. It is used to protect individual liberty from the overreaching arms of tyrants and zealots. And to allow you to speak freely even when your speech is crap.
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Old 07-11-2008, 11:07 PM   #129 (permalink)
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Nice Dodge, But your video claims that the bible would endorce the slaughter of millions of people for working on the Sabbath.

I ask you again, do you believe the bible today would have people killed for working on the Sabbath? In light of what you just read? If not, why should I listen to any more lies that are claimed in those blaphamous video's???

There are a lot of Biblical verses that make me wonder how Christians can claim that their god is a perfect, loving god. Here are just a couple of them:

Deuteronomy 2:34: ‘We took all his cities at that time, and we utterly destroyed the men, women, and little ones of every city; we left none remaining.’

Leviticus 31:17: The Hebrews were instructed to kill every man, woman, and child, except for the virgin girls. Those they were allowed to keep to rape whenever they pleased. In the Bible god used the phrase, ‘you may keep them as wives’ but they were taken against their will after their parents were slaughtered. If that’s what god intended marriage to be I want no part of it.

Additionally, these verses also illustrate great hypocrisy on the part of god and his children.

What happened to the Commandment “Thou shall not kill.” Does that only apply to those that share your religious faith?

In looking at god’s instructions to the Hebrews in Biblical times, it seems that not a single Commandment was intended to apply to anyone other than the Hebrews. They were instructed to steal from the Egyptians when fleeing Egypt after the Passover. They were instructed to slaughter and completely destroy all evidence of the neighboring nations and their religions. Is god so insecure that he has to kill everyone who doesn’t believe in him? I just don’t get it. How can anyone claim that this is the only true god?
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There are a lot of Biblical verses that make me wonder how Christians can claim that their god is a perfect, loving god. Here are just a couple of them:

Deuteronomy 2:34: ‘We took all his cities at that time, and we utterly destroyed the men, women, and little ones of every city; we left none remaining.’

Leviticus 31:17: The Hebrews were instructed to kill every man, woman, and child, except for the virgin girls. Those they were allowed to keep to rape whenever they pleased. In the Bible god used the phrase, ‘you may keep them as wives’ but they were taken against their will after their parents were slaughtered. If that’s what god intended marriage to be I want no part of it.

Additionally, these verses also illustrate great hypocrisy on the part of god and his children.

What happened to the Commandment “Thou shall not kill.” Does that only apply to those that share your religious faith?

In looking at god’s instructions to the Hebrews in Biblical times, it seems that not a single Commandment was intended to apply to anyone other than the Hebrews. They were instructed to steal from the Egyptians when fleeing Egypt after the Passover. They were instructed to slaughter and completely destroy all evidence of the neighboring nations and their religions. Is god so insecure that he has to kill everyone who doesn’t believe in him? I just don’t get it. How can anyone claim that this is the only true god?
#1 why did you quote me, if you werent going to answer the question?

#2 you over look one major old test commandment of there time, which is of course "an eye for an eye"
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