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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 05-08-2008, 04:40 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Let them rub, man. I don't give them a dime.
Actually you do, but you're too dim to realise it.

And is robbing your fellow Americans by ducking out of your ER bills responsible behaviour for a wiccan "minister"?
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We should include as a right the right to health care. There is simply no good reason that we don't all have it. Well, except for corporate greed at the expense of the ill. How wonderfully moralistic our system is. If more people would educate themselves into other countries methods, there wouldn't be an argument about it anymore. Just check out Switzerland's system. It works very well, and it used to be done the way we do it. And after 10 years, even the residents who were against it have come to see that it is working well.
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We should include as a right the right to health care. There is simply no good reason that we don't all have it. Well, except for corporate greed at the expense of the ill. How wonderfully moralistic our system is. If more people would educate themselves into other countries methods, there wouldn't be an argument about it anymore. Just check out Switzerland's system. It works very well, and it used to be done the way we do it. And after 10 years, even the residents who were against it have come to see that it is working well.

Either we get robbed by insurance companies, or the goverment. I think we should just curb the profits of insurance companies, that alone would solve alot of the problems.
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It doesn't have to be that way. The insurance companies should be competing for our business, and providing better services. The government should not be the ones giving care, just overseeing the matter. And it can be much better then it is now.
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Actually you do, but you're too dim to realise it.

And is robbing your fellow Americans by ducking out of your ER bills responsible behaviour for a wiccan "minister"?
Please explain how I have given them any money, when I have gotten ALOT more in care than I have ever paid anyone.

And it might not be the most responsible, but I'm willing to accept any consequences that might come of my actions and I have no regrets. That is practicing what I "preach".
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Please explain how I have given them any money, when I have gotten ALOT more in care than I have ever paid anyone.

If you have ever made a mortgage or car payment, paid income tax, sales tax, property tax, bought groceries, a plane ticket or even a Starbucks coffee - a percentage of what you paid goes to subsidise somebody else's health insurance.



And it might not be the most responsible, but I'm willing to accept any consequences that might come of my actions and I have no regrets. That is practicing what I "preach".
So wiccan "ministers" preach that it's ok to get treatment at the ER, give a false name, then skip out without any intention of paying the bill, and let the taxpayers pick up the tab?

Surely the goddess frowns on that kind of behaviour when she looks down from her tree?
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So wiccan "ministers" preach that it's ok to get treatment at the ER, give a false name, then skip out without any intention of paying the bill, and let the taxpayers pick up the tab?

Surely the goddess frowns on that kind of behaviour when she looks down from her tree?
I've never given a false name. I just have a crappy credit rating, that's all. Well I had one anyway, so what's a few thousand more dollars?
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I've never given a false name. I just have a crappy credit rating, that's all.

what a surprise.

Well I had one anyway, so what's a few thousand more dollars?
So wiccan "ministers" don't have any problem ducking their financial responsibilities forcing other people to pay for them?
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So wiccan "ministers" don't have any problem ducking their financial responsibilities forcing other people to pay for them?
Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. And that's not a Wiccan thing, it's a human thing.
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Sometimes you have to do what you have to do. And that's not a Wiccan thing, it's a human thing.

What about the wiccan creed of doing no harm to others?

Do you only apply that when it's convenient?

Is that a good example for a wiccan "minister" to give to his flock?
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