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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 05-12-2008, 09:21 AM   #251 (permalink)
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Is it true that they toss out under age boys so they can keep more wifes for themselfs??
I have heard those allegations. I haven't seen anything official about THIS sect being guilty of turning out boys before they are considered adults. IMHO child abandonment cases should make news easily. I have not heard reports of Texas picking up boys claiming to be from there.

If it is happening, I'd be more than willing to read that this sect is guilty of this though. I have known parents to kick out kids at a certain age to fend for themselves. If they are above 17 or 18, they wouldn't be alone in this practice. Like I said in a previous post, removing extra mature males has many examples in nature just as a male with several females.

I don't agree with the arrangements for humans, but then again a lot of stuff goes on that I don't agree with. At least they aren't having FLDS pride parades.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:28 AM   #252 (permalink)
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I have heard those allegations. I haven't seen anything official about THIS sect being guilty of turning out boys before they are considered adults. IMHO child abandonment cases should make news easily. I have not heard reports of Texas picking up boys claiming to be from there.

If it is happening, I'd be more than willing to read that this sect is guilty of this though. I have known parents to kick out kids at a certain age to fend for themselves. If they are above 17 or 18, they wouldn't be alone in this practice. Like I said in a previous post, removing extra mature males has many examples in nature just as a male with several females.

I don't agree with the arrangements for humans, but then again a lot of stuff goes on that I don't agree with. At least they aren't having FLDS pride parades.
No, because they would probably ALL be in jail if they proudly displayed everything their wacky cult was up to.
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I have heard those allegations. I haven't seen anything official about THIS sect being guilty of turning out boys before they are considered adults. IMHO child abandonment cases should make news easily. I have not heard reports of Texas picking up boys claiming to be from there.

If it is happening, I'd be more than willing to read that this sect is guilty of this though. I have known parents to kick out kids at a certain age to fend for themselves. If they are above 17 or 18, they wouldn't be alone in this practice. Like I said in a previous post, removing extra mature males has many examples in nature just as a male with several females.

I don't agree with the arrangements for humans, but then again a lot of stuff goes on that I don't agree with. At least they aren't having FLDS pride parades.

Yea, I not saying they did, but I was reading some of the comments from the site you brought up, and one acussed them of it. I was just wondering if it held any water.
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It would be pretty hard to cover up. I know if I was a underage male that got kicked out, the first thing I would do is go to the police.
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No, because they would probably ALL be in jail if they proudly displayed everything their wacky cult was up to.
Another pointless allegation. All of these allegations are easily verified. So far no one charged with anything. After over a month. Hold on to that hate Mr Equality and tolerance.
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It would be pretty hard to cover up. I know if I was a underage male that got kicked out, the first thing I would do is go to the police.
Exactly. That would make for some great news too. Tell all their business. Not yet though. No credible negative truthful news considering the horrific allegations lodged.
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Another pointless allegation. All of these allegations are easily verified. So far no one charged with anything. After over a month. Hold on to that hate Mr Equality and tolerance.
Nah, no hate here. And you are right, the truth will eventually come out. I have a feeling more than a few skeletons have yet to be found in that closet. But I could be wrong. I feely admit that.
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Nah, no hate here. And you are right, the truth will eventually come out. I have a feeling more than a few skeletons have yet to be found in that closet. But I could be wrong. I feely admit that.
I could be wrong too. And as soon as they come out with something concrete that justifies taking 400 or so kids away from their parents, I'll be the first one to say "my bad". But so far, the actual convictions have been rare and far between. Nothing that supports the "widespread welfare fraud" and "all thriteen year olds are pregnant" bullshit we've been led to believe.

With everything done today on a computer, I don't see being able to hide the amounts of fraud alleged.

Here's a funny C@P that I thought was interesting..
Opinions differ on FLDS classification : Local : Times Record News
After 40 years in the group, Bistline left in 1987 because leaders of the religious community, formerly “Priesthood Group,” refused to give him a second wife.
“The women and kids aren’t criminals,” Bistline said. “But the men, they need to suffer.”

Bitter much? Sounds like a lot of these bitchy "ex" FLDS members. It's pretty obvious why they got the boot.

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Old 05-13-2008, 09:52 AM   #259 (permalink)
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In many of the cases of kids at the FLDS, there are no birth certificates or records. They have been born on site and they choose to only provide records for some of the kids. They do that so that they can receive welfare assistance, but keep outsiders from finding out how old some of these young mothers really are. They have known for a while that the law was watching them and they are all about protecting themselves. So fx, you really need to open your eyes to the fact that this is not okay for the kids there. I see you have no problem believing the statements of the accused, but you totally denounce the accusers. These people have been allowed to get away with this for far too long, and it is time something was done about it.
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Here are a couple of sites where you can read for yourself all about the FLDS and Jeffs, and how it is all run.

Escape from polygamy

SPLCenter.org: Tempest in Texas

Polygamists on Utah-Arizona Border Under Scrutiny : NPR

Fx, be sure to read what their opinion is on blacks. The SPLC has labeled them a hate group.

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