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| Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics? |
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| A Funny Fellow Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Gender: ![]() Posts: 5,720 Country: ![]()
| Yeah, good arguments on both sides of this one. Of course, I think we all agree, what is best for the children? | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,907 Country: ![]()
| That's very nice, but what we don't have is any proof of it in this case. What we have are 1000 people living on a compound that are being persecuted. They live a lifestyle that we don't like or even agree with, but it's their lifestyle. One that they aren't sharing with anyone or trying marching down main street to show their "pride" in it. One conviction of one man for arranging a marriage and no real evidence of abuse speaks MUCH louder than these accusations. What is more important is that ALL the kids were supposed to healthy, ALL of them were happy and well mannered, and not a single report of any of them wanting to leave that lifestyle. Until you have a group of these women that are clamoring to leave and join the outside world, I don't see any abuse. It looks like we give women the "right" to kill a fetus, but after is is born, now we are telling them that they way they live and are raising their child is up to the state and can be revoked at any time. Even if no abuse is proven. Bullshit. I think Texas is gonna end up paying some of these people a huge sum of money in Civil court. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Congressional Representative ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey Gender: ![]() Posts: 2,118 Country: ![]()
| I guess you haven't heard of Fumarase Disease which was very rare until it popped up in only two places, Colorado City, Arizona, and the other FLDS compound in Utah. It ain't pretty. And fx, once again, 13 year old girls cannot legally consent to spiritual or any other kind of marriage. That is the law of the land, and there is clear evidence of sexual abuse and neglect in these FLDS communities. Your refusal to see that doesn't change the facts. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,907 Country: ![]()
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Until 1990 Tarby says he knew of only 13 cases of Fumarase Deficiency worldwide. Since, it has taken hold in the FLDS community because of intermarriage. "If you have two parents with the gene," Tarby says, "you are going to have a one-in-four chance of having a child afflicted with it." Depending on the severity of the disorder, children may die in childhood or may survive into early adulthood; if a person who has developed the disorder goes on to have a child, his or her chances of passing it on are one in two. But diagnosing the condition is difficult and requires extremely careful testing, the doctor says. His research, published in 2006, identified 20 cases within the Hildale-Colorado City enclave. "I would expect there are going to be Fumarase Deficiency cases there in Texas," he said. Don't forget the Jews have genetic diseases too. For closed breeding I bet. Quote:
Where is the evidence of sexual abuse and neglect? I haven't seen any report of it. Only the contrived illegal kind. Which ain't abuse, just illegal. Last edited by fxashun; 04-29-2008 at 12:25 PM. | |||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Congressional Representative ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey Gender: ![]() Posts: 2,118 Country: ![]()
| You have refused to see the evidence because you obviously don't want to. And the disease is genetic and occurs when close family relations marry. Ther are allegations that the FLDS people kill them at birth. I guess that's okay too? | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,907 Country: ![]()
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So are you advocating controlling the actions of adults now? Still hypocritical. Quote:
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| Congressional Representative ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey Gender: ![]() Posts: 2,118 Country: ![]()
| Wrong Fx. We still haven't got the info on who belongs to who. There are kids there that aren't with their parents. They get passed between communities like commodities. You are wrong about this. It is a dangerous cult. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psalm 119:105 | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 8,907 Country: ![]()
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You sound a bit paranoid. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| A Funny Fellow Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pensacola, FL Gender: ![]() Posts: 5,720 Country: ![]()
| Yeah, that's the issue: what mothers go with what children? Also, have they really been abused? I don't know. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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