Defending the Truth

Hasn't been proven legally, YET. And not all the people who have left, were women acting like bitter divorcees. No matter what information you get in the future it won't change your mind. Evidence won't make any difference to you, you are a supporter of the FLDS and probably just as twisted as some of them are proven to be.

But there is no evidence yet. How can you make an argument based on a pipedream? There is no evidence out there. That's what the courts said. They found ONE possible case of abuse. And the members involved had prior issues. Sorry, unless you have NEW information, you are making less sense now than you did before. And that's quite an accomplishment.

I'm not a supporter of the FLDS. But I am a supporter of dealing with the facts available. And the facts we have today don't support anything you've said about THIS case.

I really don't know how you can say that because the FLDS is run by Warren Jeffs and there have been convictions regarding what his communities do with their 14 year old daughters. Colorado City Arizona and this Texas community are the followers of Warren Jeffs, who might have as many as 180 wives, all of whom are among the youngest "ready" to be wives. In his sect of the religion, it is like living in Iran for these women. I am not saying that all polygamists are abusing their kids, not by a long shot. I have seen examples of polygamous families who are not members of a cult who abuse their wives and children. They have every right to live their lives according to their beliefs, and I support them. However, the FLDS is another story. That is a cult if there ever was one, and the women there don't even have access to freedom of choice in reading materials, newspapers, tv, etc. I don't know how you can think otherwise, when there has been evidence showing what really is taking place in the FLDS.

I can say that because in THIS case, not a single one of the charges you have lobbed have been proven. No welfare fraud, no actual abuse, no widespread underage pregnancies. Especially considering Texas already has one of the highest incidences of teenage pregnany in the country as it is.

I really couldn't careless "what you have seen" because it really doesn't matter in THIS case.

How do women not have access to those things but they have cell phones and computers available? So far as it relates to THIS situtation, you have yet to present anything factual that has been verified to matter to THIS case. But keep on posting, it just let's people put some of your posts in other threads into perspective.

We aren't privy to all of the information in this case from CPS and we have no idea how many 14 year old girls have been married and moved out from there to another community. Go ahead and believe the abusers, you don't care what Jessup's wife says in her book, "Escape", because you haven't bother to look at any other information than what you are hearing from the critics of the raid.

Now you are dealing with "ifs". You can't prosecute "ifs". You are are a trip. That's why the Supreme Court slapped the CPS upside the head. They were acting like you. And you can't do that. And even if they do find underage pregancies, they are gonna have to get over the constitutionality of the evidence and whether the law change was persecution. Good luck with your line of thought.

Is this a better result?
Metro - Teens had a pact to get pregnant
I wonder who is gonna care for these kids?

I do not speak for the Texas CPS, or the passage of the law that raised the age requirement for marriage and it's constitutionality. I do speak for the victims who are living in the FLDS under the wacko leadership of those like Warren Jeffs and those men who are running the communities in his stead. Society owes these people protection from predators. Unfortunately, the law has gone about it the wrong way, and made their positions weaker as a consequence. I hope they don't give up on making sure that these young women have the ability to exercise their constitutional rights to freedom and liberty, because most of them don't even know they have those rights.

And now that they do, they are still staying. In droves. Militantly. Looks like they don't want the "protection" that you are offering.

Or maybe they don't want other family members to be punished if they leave. Or maybe they are too brainwashed to see that they have a choice.