Tee hee..You said Ali and "right" in the same sentence. ROLFLOFLTOP or some crap like that.

I'm gunning for ya Gary. Looks like I might have to discuss something other than "gay marriage" now.

In regards to your previous response to me, on my last comment...It's not worth commenting about. Since YOU'VE decided that things MUST BE only the way you perceive it, it's obvious that no number of 'links' I pull up to show that others gripe about other channels will make a bit of difference...

Just as you'd responded in my previous posting, in your feeble attempt to dismiss my points by stating 'we're talking about LMN, so the other examples don't count' argument...You'll just dismisss them solely because YOU don't want to acknowledge that your preception is just that...Opinion that doesn't mean fact.

But I do have to say...This post says alot about your mentality FX. Because I was able to prove that LMN was not solely a 'man hater' channel, that it does frequently program 'love that man' programming...You've resorted to personal digs to my intelligence, as usual...

It goes to show that even IF LMN was 100% 'love that man' programming, you'd then still whine the opposite because you simply have a low opinion of women in general, who don't fall into line to your way of thinking.

You're not lowering my level of intelligence through 'truth'...You're just doing so through untruths because you're incapable of making myself or others as gullible as yourself.

Proving my point in fact, that those that label LMN as 'the man hater channel' don't do so out of knowledge of it's programming...But because of their LACK OF KNOWLEDGE about it's programming. And their own little insecurities in regards to women's life issues, as well as their insecurities of strong, positive male role models.

Also I find it interesting that you base it's worth off of the commercial's shown? Guess that makes every station on t.v. a 'man hater's channel' cause the same commercials shown on LMN are also shown on every other channel whether it's standard channels, cable, digital, or dish...

So while you're laughing at me pretending I'm less then who I am...I actually get the last laugh at your expense.

Fx, when are you going to see that these poeple are crazy, and abusive to their children? Amd do you realise that they are bleeding our tax dollars to support their brainwashing and "lifestyle choice"? Give me a break. They don't keep documentation on all of the kids with them, and then CPS can't tell how old they are or who their parents are. They are trying very hard to hide any evidence of their guilt, but they know they are doing something wrong, or they wouldn't be hiding it. Wake up.

Or in other words "you are FOS". Figures.

It's not "my" perception. It's the perception of the public at-large. Your feeble attempt at disproving what I said speaks volumes. You say "my" opinion means nothing but it's not just "my" opinion. Yet you have presented nothing but bulsshit as your opinion with absolutely nothing to support what you say. It seems to me that your opinion in infinitely more useless than mine, using your own standard.

You haven't "proven" anything. You've said a lot of unfounded stuff. Why does your sole opinion outweigh mine? You are daft.

"If" is the first word preceding bullshit. Anything you want can follow that word. Even if it makes no sense or is far from the truth. "If" Lifetime had 100% man-love programming it would be the Spice Channel. LOL And we wouldn't be having this discussion. But since it's not, Lifetime is a man-hating channel, just like everyone thinks.

Where is the untruth? Let's see. I say that "Lifetime is a man hating channel. And I bring several links of people in unrelated forums agreeing with me. And you say they aren't and you present....... Yeah. Okay.

You haven't "proven" anything though. You have only said a lot of stuff. If my word isn't proof, neither is yours. Nt to mention all the other bullshit you came up with about the "other channels" but absolutely nothing on those either. You really need to work on your "proving" skills.

I don't base my opinion on commercials shown, I base it on the fact that the programming that's not reruns and sitcoms is man-hating. Just like the other people have noticed. That was Gary's post. Maybe you need to work on your reading skills.

Naa, I'm still laughing at you thinking you have "proven" something. Have you found anything on that BET hates white people drivel you raised before? Good luck.

I'm going to see that when it is proven in court just like any other crime.
You seem to come up with a lot of unfounded accusations. Where have you seen proof that these people are bleeding our tax dollars? Especially any more than any other baby momma with several kids. Didn't we just have a thread about just that? What are they guilty of? The law that was changed when they arrived in the state(persecution), or polygamy, which since they weren't married by the state, is no different that having a bunch of babys mommas all over town. Sorry, I don't see how these people are living any worse than any poor kid in the projects or even one in many rural areas. They are just an easy target.
12,000 13 year olds get pregnant every year, and the number rises sharply after that. Not all of them are "rape" and they have not always been illegal. Making something a crime doesn't automatically make it wrong, it just makes it illegal.

What don't you understand about a child not choosing to have sex and be spiritually married, but being forced into it? It isn't the same thing as a 12 or 13 year old having sex with their boyfriend, which I also think is bad. And it isn't unfounded accusations that they are getting welfare and food stamps, it is a fact. Look it up. And people vote to change laws, if they feel they are necessary. Obviously the people felt it was necessary to raise the age of consent and so they changed the law. That's not illegal, or immoral, it's the way the system works.

And what part do you not understand that in many cultures children are "assigned" to each other to be married. Some of that is practiced even here in the U.S. So if they are raised that way, it's not "forced", it's just the way it is. I don't see the harm in it if they aren't being abused. I also see that only half of the girls were "married". Were the other women too ugly? Did someone have a choice? No one is leaving, so even if they are what you call "brainwashed", I call if faithful to their belief system. Again, a system they are not recruiting or trying to spread in schools with days of silence.

I looked it up and I saw that in THIS case there is no proof of welfare fraud. So again we have someone making up charges trying to demean these people. Why are they getting ganged up on so bad here. Lies lies lies. And what would the fraud be? You can't marry polygamously. So you DO technically have single mothers under the eyes of "the law". So why shouldn't they take advantage of the assistance. Just like any other "baby momma". So if you are gonna assert that THESE people were practicing welfare fraud, why don't YOU look it up and prove it.

I DO know one thing, if you DO convict these men that you are accusing of "rape" and they have multiple wives, Guess what, when the men go to jail, the women can go on welfare. LOL. Legally. And with all the wives combining their checks and income, they'll still be okay. AND they can probably just get "spiritually" reassigned to another husband. ROFLTCDEKRFH Whatever. It's a win win situation for the sect as a whole. Because they aren't gonna be able to keep them from being a "cult" as you call it. All they can do is prosecute the MEN. And it ain't like there ain't more waiting to take up the slack.

And when laws are changed specifically to target a religion. That's persecution.
And in this case "people" didn't change the law, it was pushed through by a legislator. Just as "the people" didn't allow gay marriage in Mass., their "representatives" took it upon themselves. You seem to not know how the "system" really works.
Modern Pharisee: Texas Law Changed Specificly to "Get" the FLDS.
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1...274455,00.html

Not a religion, a sexual act. That is why the laws were changed. There wasn't rampant sexual enslavement going on there before the FLDS came to town. And your cultural comparisons don't hold water. Even with arranged marriages, they aren't marrying them off at 13. Religious freedom is not freedom to abuse people. And you make it sound so very simple with your comments about how no one is leaving, but some have left. And others are far too frightened by what the consequences are if they do leave. Many of the women and girls have children living with other families there or in other compounds and are afraid what would happen to them if they fled. It is no where near are easy as you try to convince me of. It is systemic generational abuse and should have been handled many years ago, but like I said, women haven't been in power long enough for all things to have changed. We do have a voice over our destinies and unfortuantely, these women aren't even aware of what has been done to them in the name of God.

But the law was changed before they actually proved there was any "enslavement" going on. Again, still looking for the mass exodus of disgruntled women clamoring to leave the sect. Haven't seen it. The laws weren't changed because of any proof, it was persecution.

Some "have left", but none have left as a result of this raid all of a sudden freeing them from some imaginary bondage. And so far, marrying at 13 hasn't been proven to be a norm in that sect. And 14 was legal until they were targeted with a change in the law. Persecution.

Women aren't in power now. You seem to not see the significance in NONE of the women expressing the desire to leave. You have a couple hundred women there. Not even single digit ratio is compelling evidence that they might be happy there.

Some women might have more power and all that, and that might float their boat, but it seems these women have no interest in that. They just want their children back and to be left alone. You seem to be "intolerant" of these people and are going to great lengths to try and liberate people that don't.

Not everyone wants to be a feminatzi man-hating abortion loving modern woman. Some women have no problem being barefoot and pregnant, some women have no problem stripping or being a sexual pincushion on video, some women like to be saddled up and ridden like a horse. As long as they aren't actively recruiting, as you appear to be doing, let em live their life. And you can't change the laws and take a woman's kids away because you don't like the way they are living. That's just wrong.