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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 07-02-2008, 02:17 PM   #181 (permalink)
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Buddhism is more a philosophy than a religion, and Buddha, (aka Siddhartha or Sid to his friends) never claimed to be the one and only God of the Universe.

Try some other dodge
How is what I said a dodge? And since when is Bhuddism not a religion? Like someone else on here asked, do you ever get tired of looking stupid on here?
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Old 07-02-2008, 02:22 PM   #182 (permalink)
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How is what I said a dodge?

I asked you whether YOU had the courage of YOUR convictions and you made some wisecrack about the Dalia Lama. That's a dodge.


And since when is Bhuddism not a religion?

Do you mean Buddhism?

Depends how you define a religion, but as Buddhism is non-theistic it offers no answers to the mysteries of Creation or Eternal Life.

Nor does it command its followers to spread the good news all over the world - hence the Dalai Lama's coyness.

Although it does offer some nice thoughts about how to lead a good life.







Like someone else on here asked, do you ever get tired of looking stupid on here?
As long as you are posting I can never look stupid.
Old 07-02-2008, 03:29 PM   #183 (permalink)
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As long as you are posting I can never look stupid.
Care to take a poll on that one, gary?
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Nor does it command its followers to spread the good news all over the world - hence the Dalai Lama's coyness.
Is that a requirement for something to be a religion?
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Do you mean Buddhism?

Depends how you define a religion, but as Buddhism is non-theistic it offers no answers to the mysteries of Creation or Eternal Life.
Lets take note of the fallacies.

Because theism means meaning, then an absence of theism therefore must mean without meaning? Aside from being obviously non sequitur, this is of course ignoring the consideration that your premises may be wrong, that God may just not adequately explain anything. There just could be a possibility that one can develop a set of explanations of the world without the simplistic conception of the Christian God. Of course your train of thought you presented here merely underlines the immaturity of your 'philosophical' capabilities.

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Nor does it command its followers to spread the good news all over the world - hence the Dalai Lama's coyness.
Perhaps it has occurred to you that its this non-crusading and (in some instances) scientific approach of reaching the truth that has made Buddhism particularly popular?

There is the religion of Buddhism, and then there is the philosophy. Of course many have argued that the former is the perversion of the original teachings; which I tend to agree with, because to me, idolatry and deity-worship of the Buddha seems to go against the whole idea of Buddhism.
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Lets take note of the fallacies.

Because theism means meaning, then an absence of theism therefore must mean without meaning? Aside from being obviously non sequitur, this is of course ignoring the consideration that your premises may be wrong, that God may just not adequately explain anything. There just could be a possibility that one can develop a set of explanations of the world without the simplistic conception of the Christian God.

Simplistic??

Of course your train of thought you presented here merely underlines the immaturity of your 'philosophical' capabilities.


Nontheism is a term that covers a range of both religious and nonreligious attitudes characterized by the absence of—or the rejection of—theism or any belief in a personal god or gods.



Perhaps it has occurred to you that its this non-crusading and (in some instances) scientific approach of reaching the truth that has made Buddhism particularly popular?
Popularity and truth are not always concomitant.

This relates back to the earlier comment about the Dalai Lama not wanting to insist that his was the only true faith, unlike the Christian message. Therefore it is little surprise he doesn't feel the need to express such a sentiment.
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Is that a requirement for something to be a religion?
Nope but it puts the lie to your earlier sarcastic childishness:

'And I guess people like the Dahli Lama also lack the courage of THEIR convictions, because they don't go around saying Bhuddism is the only truth'
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Nope but it puts the lie to your earlier sarcastic childishness:

'And I guess people like the Dahli Lama also lack the courage of THEIR convictions, because they don't go around saying Bhuddism is the only truth'
Wow, the alcohol makes you say funny things, gary.
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Still waiting.

This thread is called 10 questions intelligent Christians must answer.
Hence, I don't have to answer anything.

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I explained my stance. You don't like my stance, which is fine; I don't like your stance. There is no debate or topic open for discussion. I like talking about this subject, so I endure your criticism. Don't dodge my questions. You like trying to push me against the ropes.
I'm not dodging anything except your strawman tactics. This is about Christianity and whether it stands or it is comprised of an entire rotten edifice of irrationality and superstition. If you feel that debating the validity your religious beliefs is pushing you against the ropes then don't enter the ring in the first place.

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Why are you afraid to tell me what you feel is true?
True about what?

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Also, Stormfront is a forum dedicated to propaganda about how non whites have affected America.
In addition to disaffected white Christians who whine about how 'bad' they have it and how 'oppressed' they all are.

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You have such hostility toward Christianity.
If disagreement is hostility then so be it. But I don't hate anyone.

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Most other people have shown me respect on this thread, according to beliefs, but you want to humiliate me. What happened?
I don't want to humiliate you at all; we're debating Christianity and if you're offended then perhaps it is your fault. I actually started posting in this thread very civil until you changed the tone.
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Simplistic??
Yes.

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Nontheism is a term that covers a range of both religious and nonreligious attitudes characterized by the absence of—or the rejection of—theism or any belief in a personal god or gods.
I agree.


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Popularity and truth are not always concomitant.
Definitely agreed.

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This relates back to the earlier comment about the Dalai Lama not wanting to insist that his was the only true faith, unlike the Christian message. Therefore it is little surprise he doesn't feel the need to express such a sentiment.
Let's back up for a moment. I don't actually think this is necessarily true. The Dalai Lama believes in Buddhism, and is quite clear in his convictions that he is right on some philosophical issues and others are wrong. He would only disagree that his path is the only way to achieve enlightenment.
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