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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 07-06-2008, 01:36 PM   #281 (permalink)
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We are not talking about disagreeing AP, we are talking about invalidating. And every post I copied was meant to do just that. You cant show me a single thread made to invalidate your beliefs, where the majority are there to invalidate mine, and you CHEERED them ALL on.

And I never said everyone, I said most. Go into these threads and see who is responding, it IS most.

Funny...But it even isn't 'most' Grace.

ONE PERSON doesnt' equate 'all' or 'most'...ONE PERSON Gracie...

And again, you can't count 'thanks' as 'attacking my beliefs' either...That's called EXAGGERATING and PLAYING MARTYR period. Nor does any of the replies made by other posters become 'most are attacking my beliefs' because only ONE PERSON has done that. All the others are DISAGREEING with YOUR POV, not Christianity nor attacking it or you.

Why don't you grow the Hades up? Instead of playing 'victim' and exaggerating what has been said by 'most' of the people here? Because your 'most' is ONE PERSON.

PERIOD.

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Old 07-06-2008, 01:41 PM   #282 (permalink)
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Hey Grace... While you are crying your little ass off and making a Martyr of yourself, have you ever considered the fact that you can start threads too!!! Got threads that invalidate or make a good point against atheism? POST THEM!!! Don't just whine, bitch cry and complain about other peoples posts. Post counter arguments, if you have any...

That's how this work toots... I can't keep doing all the leg work for you.
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Old 07-06-2008, 04:29 PM   #283 (permalink)
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And he includes abortions in his calculations. Do you think he knows that women have been terminating their unwanted pregnancies since the dawn of time? They weren't recorded until recent times though. And of course he fails to mention that those weren't people yet, and can't be counted in murder statistics, except by the crazies who don't want women to be the deciders of their own fates. If that is the criteria, you would have to count every woman murdered as the potential mother of, let's say, 5 kids, and then quadruple the statistics in accordance.
What choice do women have? Once the child is outside the womb, can she then choose to terminate it? The overwhelming majority of abortions are simply unwanted pregnancies. Simply put, abortion is a means of birth control. You should look at pics of abortions; the mangled little bloody bodies, ripped out of the womb, piece by piece. Then decide what is human. Eat before looking at these pics.

I oversee handicapped and retarded children in a volunteer program. Not one has ever been sorry for being born. Not one has ever wanted to die. I don't think that women should be told wat to do with their bodies, which is why I am against govt intervention in this case. On the other hand, most proponents are men; so women are still being told, by men, what to do with their bodies.

Where does the madness stop? Should there be a "final solution" to this? Next is retarded, then sick, then old, then race, and creed.
Old 07-06-2008, 04:42 PM   #284 (permalink)
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Explanation about what?
Still dodging. A Creator is much more rational than a random chance. You are looking for proof. You should perhaps explain what proof is their of evolution. Mutation happens, this is obvious. Example is black people, white people, brown people, red people, yellow people. Also, animals exhibit traits like longer necks, webbed feet, etc..

But, to say that all life first started from a single cell is a leap of faith. This can't be proven because there is no proof via transition species. Show me a half man/half ape. Or a half bird/half lizard. A fish and a bird cannot successfuly breed. Atheism is a religion, and evolution is its bible.
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today, yes. where there is no life yet evolved, abiogenesis has a chance. if you are patient enough to wait a few billion years.


true


this is an illogical leap of faith in direct contradiction to the evidence.


straw man. also quite irrelevant.


from a mathematical perspective, it is possible. statistically there is a chance that your pushing against a wall would lead to you becoming queen of england. if it is possible to separate mathematics from things like your lifespan, the social conditions of england, the weathering of the wall, etc. mathematics is a strange place.


do you think belief in god must lead to rejection of scientifically based knowledge ?
You need to study a little harder. Evolution, on a macro level, has not happened; atleast there is not one single shred of evidence. How do you know that it takes billions of years? Why not trillions of years? Therefore, since evolution has no scientific foundation-only faith-it is not science.
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The difference is that there is BAGS of evidence proving the absence (or indefference) of god.

For example, why does he hate amputees?
Lame response. Are you an amputee? Show me evidence, BAGS of it, that proves your theory.
Old 07-06-2008, 05:02 PM   #287 (permalink)
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If Christians did the suicide bombing thing, she'd be the first in line... She wants to be a Martyr so badly...
You want proof; your skepticism is proof. If you truly DISbelieved in the existense of Jesus Christ, then you wouldn't have created thread. Its a thread, right? I'm new at this stuff.
You look for answers, like the amputees issue, which is not the real issue at all. I think the real issue is: Why hasn't God saved you from this world? Why should we all suffer? Why does evil triumph? These are all valid questions.
I was once there so I know how you feel. I've dealt with depression, loneliness, thoughts of suicide, hatred, feeling like nothing. Seek God in prayer, ask these questions. He won't turn you down. I'm not converting you, so don't get on that soap box please. I'm tryng to answer your questions. Try it, it won't hurt you. You might get the answers you want.
Old 07-06-2008, 05:09 PM   #288 (permalink)
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ROTFLMAOL!

So you're going to twist what I said, to support your UNFOUNDED claims of 'everyone here attacks me for being Christian'?

And no...I've never 'complained about my beliefs being attacked' at all...Laughed at you when you've tried to make me feel bad about my beliefs...But never complained. And then pointed out where your assumptions were wrong.

Unlike you, who calls every disagreement about Christianity an 'attack on Christians and yourself'...

You and your ilk, are the only ones that are constantly telling others their religious practices are wrong...That you're 'saving us from our sinful ways'...That we 'need to see the light' and be saved by YOUR preferred truth...

Sorry...But until you can post where 'everyone' here has said the same about YOUR beliefs, you're a whining little liar.

Because nobody here has said that you don't have a right to your beliefs...Just a right to disagree with your beliefs and not have those beliefs in their own preferred religious beliefs.

YOU on the other had are constantly putting down different beliefs and saying that your preferred flavor is the 'only belief that matters' or 'should be observed/followed'...

Like I already offered Grace...I'll be more then happy to help you build yourself that cross and nail you up on it if that's where you really want to be.
You have come to this thread b/c you are skeptic of Christianity. Again, it is a belief in God, not people. It is God centered not man centered. We are commanded to go out and tell people about our faith. We're not perfct, yet you probably talk about your faith with others. Don't you?

The very fact that you're posting proves that you are not Christian, which is your free choice. On the other hand, you being here shows me that you have a dislike for Christians, the faith, the church, etc.. Why are you here?
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I KNOW what I said Grace...I also was pretty specific in how you invalidate another's beliefs on a regular basis...

And, I'll say it again since it's went over your head now 3 times...

While you go about saying that everyone else's beliefs are 'wrong' and your beliefs are the only 'right beliefs'...Nobody else has told you the same thing in return...Disagree with your beliefs yes...But make themselves clear that it's 'wrong for them' personally.

Nobody here (except for Tadpole) has told you that you have to change your religion.

YOU on the other hand, have told myself and others non-stop that we have to change ours and conform to YOUR'S.

And each time you tell people that they have to change thier beliefs to conform to your beliefs...THAT is invalidating their beliefs and making your choosen flavor superior to their own...

Which means YOU are the one who openly attacks other's beliefs...Not those you are accusing of doing as you do in regards to how you approach religion and those beliefs of others.

At the same time, you also incorrectly claim that 'everyone attacks my beliefs' when the case is only ONE person has done so yet you take affront and claim 'everyone' instead.

Got that cross made yet? I found some lovely long, strong nails for ya...[/quote]

She is defending her faith, like you defend your faith. What is the issue?
Don't mock people with remarks, like your last. Are you advocating that she commit suicide?
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Hey Grace... While you are crying your little ass off and making a Martyr of yourself, have you ever considered the fact that you can start threads too!!! Got threads that invalidate or make a good point against atheism? POST THEM!!! Don't just whine, bitch cry and complain about other peoples posts. Post counter arguments, if you have any...

That's how this work toots... I can't keep doing all the leg work for you.
Can I quote this to some of the pro-abortion and homosexual activists on here??
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