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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 06-25-2008, 09:59 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Daniel foretold of the Grecian empire coming to conquer the Persian empire.

The book of revelation foretells of the coming one world govt, wars and rumors of wars, famines and pestilences.

Ezekiel foretold of the reformation of Israel after being apart for many years.
Ezekiel also spoke of the war that is inevitably coming between Israel vs. Iran, Russia, most of the middle east and Egypt and Sudan. If you watch current news, I'm sure you do, you will see it all lining up.

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Was the story of Daniel written before or after that happend? I could easily sit down right now and write a "historical account" of someone that lived a hundred years ago that had dream about 9/11.

As far as revelations goes, how vague is that. So they said there will be wars and famine. Not to hard to make that kind of a "prediction". I'll make one for you right now. A great man will be assasinated within the next one hundred years. See how easy that is?

And for Ezekial, "predicting" that Israel would get into a war in the Middle East would be like me "predicting" that a car headed into a wall was going to actually crash into it.
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:36 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Old 06-25-2008, 10:41 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Was the story of Daniel written before or after that happend? I could easily sit down right now and write a "historical account" of someone that lived a hundred years ago that had dream about 9/11.

As far as revelations goes, how vague is that. So they said there will be wars and famine. Not to hard to make that kind of a "prediction". I'll make one for you right now. A great man will be assasinated within the next one hundred years. See how easy that is?

And for Ezekial, "predicting" that Israel would get into a war in the Middle East would be like me "predicting" that a car headed into a wall was going to actually crash into it.

The dead sea scrolls prove that the story of Daniel was written before. Thats old news.
Old 06-25-2008, 11:02 AM   #64 (permalink)
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Alexander the great was shown the book of the Daniel when his army was weeping through the middle east.

Why do countries like Iran, Russia, Syria, Egypt, and Sudan all want to destroy Israel? That is predicted. Islam was neither founded nor established across Asia and Africa until after the NEW testament was written. Iran was an ally of Israel until thirty years ago. Many of these mentioned countries already attacked Israel right after the nation was reformed. They had no possible chance of winning, but they wiped out all attacking armies. God is not involved ?
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Alexander the great was shown the book of the Daniel when his army was weeping through the middle east.

Why do countries like Iran, Russia, Syria, Egypt, and Sudan all want to destroy Israel? That is predicted. Islam was neither founded nor established across Asia and Africa until after the NEW testament was written. Iran was an ally of Israel until thirty years ago. Many of these mentioned countries already attacked Israel right after the nation was reformed. They had no possible chance of winning, but they wiped out all attacking armies. God is not involved ?
THEIR god could have well been involved.
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And Their God says he is the only God.
Old 06-25-2008, 12:44 PM   #67 (permalink)
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And Their God says he is the only God.
Or maybe his followers told everyone that he was the only God to gain all the power and wealth that the church has today.
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THEIR god could have well been involved.
Christians and Jews worship the same God. Jesus came to preach the message of repentance to the Jews FIRST. Gentiles converted as a result of the apostle Paul. Jesus did indirectly preach repentance to half Jews and gentiles. There will be a revival of faith and repentance amongst Jews in the 7 year tribulation, 144,000 to approximate.
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Right. And Jesus was a conservative Jew, who wasn't speaking to anyone but other Jews under Roman oppression, and to the corrupt high priests who were not sticking to the laws of Moses. That's why Christianity should be called Paulianity, as he did the most with regard to bringing the message out to the gentile population. A message that he authored, based on Jesus's teachings.

And Muslims worship the same God as the Christians and Jews. They all worship the God of Abraham.
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Right. And Jesus was a conservative Jew, who wasn't speaking to anyone but other Jews under Roman oppression, and to the corrupt high priests who were not sticking to the laws of Moses. That's why Christianity should be called Paulianity, as he did the most with regard to bringing the message out to the gentile population. A message that he authored, based on Jesus's teachings.

And Muslims worship the same God as the Christians and Jews. They all worship the God of Abraham.
Jesus' message was and is geared towards all people. Any other religion teaches that a person must earn their salvation. Their is some degree of faith in each religion, being that you hope you works can earn your salvation. Faith is not the central theme, thus excluding God.
Hinduism and Buddhism-karma and cast system
Islam-gihad, systematic praying and fasting
Mormonism-achieve telestial, terrestrial, celestial plains, garments, temple practices
Christianity-faith in Christ
Atheism-trust in yourself
The good news, brought by Jesus is one of repentance from sin. I understand how hard it must be for a person to give control of their life to God when they can't see or hear Him. All other religions are works based. Only faith in Christ is faith based. You can't earn it; only accept it.

Jesus also spoke to the poor, as well as the priests and sadducees. The woman at the well, the 5,000 feeding, the 3,000 feeding, the blind man, the lame man, the gentile woman with a sick daughter. Salvation cam to us through the Jews, but is meant for everyone. After all, Abraham was not a Jew.

Muslims do not worship the same God as Jews and Christians. Allah is the former Babylonian god of the moon. This is why they use the crescent moon for their flags, markers, etc... Also, the Laws of Allah, Sharia, contradicts with the God of the Bible. The Bible preaches love, forgiveness, and repentance. The main theme of the Bible is faith in the one true God. The Koran teaches to go out and force your religion on others, killing and oppressing those who don't convert. This is done in hopes of maybe going to heaven. Also, we must claim Gihad, holy war, on those who don't convert. There is no hope, your faith is a crap shoot. Many of these Gihadists are small children, talked into suicide bombing by adult radicals that hide behind masks. This is evident today in North Africa, Iran, Lebanon, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Israel... the list goes on.
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