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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 07-09-2008, 09:41 AM   #51 (permalink)
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You are right about God destroying Israel, and in that story that I repeated, it was a tribe of his chosen people who were doing the bad deeds. The Benjamites weren't allowed to marry the daughters of the other tribes because of that incident, but the rest of that story isn't so good either. They were allowed to capture some other women folk and make them their wives, so the only offence that they truly committed was against their God, not their women, for it was accpetable to rape and capture women if you couldn't find a wife.

And for the Christians out there who aren't part of the problem, meaning you follow your faith and back it with works, without judging or condemning, I have no problem with you. I am not attacking people of faith, I am attacking a corrupt institution.
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Old 07-09-2008, 01:15 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Jesus spoke in metaphor. He does this alot. Greek is a language that has many meanings fora single word. For example the word love can mean erotic, friendship, unconditional, familial, and probably more. Jesus meant that we must put God first in front of our own lives, our family member, and so on. This is a faith/trust issue. He will bless a person greatly if we focus on Him.

This is in the last days. People will become so corrupt that they will offer up their own family members b/c of their belief in God. This already happens in Europe, Asia, and South America. It has been happening in Asia minor for 2000 years. It will happen soon in the U.S.

Again, Jesus spoke in metaphor. He doesn't want us to live like peasants or bums. We're not trying to achieve anything, other than show our faith in Him. He does want us to put our main focus on Him. Ephesians 5 tells a husband to love his wife as himself and to die to himself for her. To me, this means that I must put my wife above all things. This is the will of God, so I am putting Him first.

Christianity is completely based on trust. We must have faith in something we can't see. We must love our enemies. We must provide for those who need it, all the time. I think God doesn't want us to necessarily understand everything, but just have faith. It sounds nuts, I know. But there is a peace when you surrender your life to Him. I have something to fall back on.

I hope this helps. I don't judge anyone, nor do I look down at anyone. We were all born sinners, we all-believers included-sin, and will continue to sin.
Yeah, what was really meant is that hate really means love, kill really means nurture, burn really means recontruct. Great metaphor. One must have true faith to see it.
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People have been thinking like this for hundreds of years.

Many thought WWI was it. Nope.

Many thought WWII was it. Nope again.
True, even if it was the end of times, why sit at home and mull about it. Enjoy life whilst you still can.
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How will you cheat death? That is, if you want to not die. Christ cheated death for me. What a nice guy.
Christ died for our sins, yet we still sin. I guess he screwed up on that one.
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When I was a "born again Christian", I was in church one day, and the pastor actually said "the best thing that could happen to any of us right now is for God to call us up to Heaven this instant". I think that's when I started to decide that I actually LIKED living in this world, as imperfect as it is. Do you really believe that Jesus wants you to just chalk this world up as "done" and just look forward to being with him in the next? I don't think that is what he was preaching AT ALL.
Yeah, and when you die, and nothing happens, you're really screwed. hahahaaaaaaa
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Christ died for our sins, yet we still sin. I guess he screwed up on that one.
Christ died so our sins would be forgiven. We still sin, but our sins are not counted against us. What a wonderful Savior.
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You are right about God destroying Israel, and in that story that I repeated, it was a tribe of his chosen people who were doing the bad deeds. The Benjamites weren't allowed to marry the daughters of the other tribes because of that incident, but the rest of that story isn't so good either. They were allowed to capture some other women folk and make them their wives, so the only offence that they truly committed was against their God, not their women, for it was accpetable to rape and capture women if you couldn't find a wife.

And for the Christians out there who aren't part of the problem, meaning you follow your faith and back it with works, without judging or condemning, I have no problem with you. I am not attacking people of faith, I am attacking a corrupt institution.
But why are you here? This thread is called "10 Questions Intelligent Christians must answer." I answered the questions. Why are you attacking at all? Every institution has weirdos. Nothing better to do?

You should defend your faith, and not point out the flaws of others. I don't know what you believe, so I can't and won't attack you, so please don't knock any part of my religion.
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Christ died so our sins would be forgiven. We still sin, but our sins are not counted against us. What a wonderful Savior.
So I can go on a murder spree and I'm still OK?
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But why are you here? This thread is called "10 Questions Intelligent Christians must answer." I answered the questions. Why are you attacking at all? Every institution has weirdos. Nothing better to do?

You should defend your faith, and not point out the flaws of others. I don't know what you believe, so I can't and won't attack you, so please don't knock any part of my religion.
I don't need to defend my faith, I don't go around telling people that what I believe in is the only true answer to the mysteries of the universe and how it was created. And for you to ask me to not knock any part of your religion is ridiculous. I am allowed to respond to the people posting in this thread about how and in what way they are answering those ten things. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but that doesn't mean I can't offer my thoughts and opinions about it. And every institution does have weirdos, but not every institution was dominating the western world with it's version of God, and ensuring their power through violence and lies and manipulation.

I am free to point out the flaws in anything I feel has flaws, especially an institution as corrupt as the hierarchy of the church. You don't have to read what I say if you don't like it.
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