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Old 06-16-2008, 05:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 06-16-2008, 08:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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are you telling me that the Great Pumpkin is imaginary?!?!
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Jesus is not imaginary. If I go by your logic then seeing is believing. I have never seen a ruby, so they don not exist. I have never seen a blue whale so they do not exist. I have never seen you so you do not exist.
The meaning of life is simple. I live in glory and in victory for God. Your sad reasoning shows that you want to be God and determine your fate. You can try, but you can't and will someday die.

If there is no Jesus, or God for this matter, than what is life worth living for? If we just evolved or life appeared magically (POOF!) as evolution teachings, than why do you struggle? Why do you put so much effort in making others look bad? Why do you waste time reading and learning just to prove others wrong? I would just go out and live life as I see fit. I would do anything anytime I wanted. If I die, so what; life is over at that point.
Why do good? Why help anyone? Why worry? Its survival of the fittest. Kill the old, sick, retarded, black, Jew, and Christian to create an utopian society (sounds like Germany or Russia).
Your life would have no purpose, meaning, reason without God.
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Tadpole256,
Your hatred for God and Christianity concerns me. What reason do you have to post this stuff?

Remember that neither Christians, the church, the pope, or priests/ministers are what will forgive sin and allow into heaven. Only God, through the sinless life and sacrificial death of our Lord Jesus the Christ, can we enter. This all sounds new and foolish, I'm sure.

Ask yourself, "Why does this guy care about me? Why is he telling me this stuff?" I have no axe to grind or whatever, but I know what you're feeling right now. I was there. Let go, and let God. You will not be sorry, believe me and trust God.
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There is proof of course that Jesus did exist, but his divinity is an entirely different matter.....so many fables come from something real and then get taller and taller over time and are edited by people with an agenda, as we know The Bible was.

Hmmmm, let' s see, how do we take the basic teachings of an enlightened fellow and use them to manipulate people? We first make him the son of a virgin, because if Mary got it from Joseph, she would be unclean because sex is bad. Then, we exaggerate a few things he did to make them look like miracles....and then we give him a god complex...and then we kill him to martyr him....and then we have witnesses say he resurrected and that he will be back so we better watch ourselves or else.....

It's fanciful, but transparent; and if he was the son of God and had all this information that he passed on to The Apostles to write gospels to teach us things, and we had Genesis to help us understand the origins of The Universe, why then many centuries later were holy men still punishing anyone who said the earth was round and not the center of The Universe?

God should know how The Universe is constructed, since he did it right?

The whole thing is so full of holes you could use it to strain pasta.
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Jesus is not imaginary. If I go by your logic then seeing is believing. I have never seen a ruby, so they don not exist. I have never seen a blue whale so they do not exist. I have never seen you so you do not exist.
The meaning of life is simple. I live in glory and in victory for God. Your sad reasoning shows that you want to be God and determine your fate. You can try, but you can't and will someday die.

If there is no Jesus, or God for this matter, than what is life worth living for? If we just evolved or life appeared magically (POOF!) as evolution teachings, than why do you struggle? Why do you put so much effort in making others look bad? Why do you waste time reading and learning just to prove others wrong? I would just go out and live life as I see fit. I would do anything anytime I wanted. If I die, so what; life is over at that point.
Why do good? Why help anyone? Why worry? Its survival of the fittest. Kill the old, sick, retarded, black, Jew, and Christian to create an utopian society (sounds like Germany or Russia).
Your life would have no purpose, meaning, reason without God.
PLEASE COMMENT.
The strange thing about secularism is the fact that it is based upon an ideology of "MATERIALISM" and "NATURALISM". People who accept the premises claim that The World.....The universe as we know it was a product of self generation or "spontaneous generation", occurring naturally. And yet it seems they can present NO PROOF of their position other than THEORY. And in many instances they can not even produce a "reasonable" theory to explain their demand that everyone should accept their ideologies as TRUTH. They claim that their position knows everything about just how the material universe came into existence, yet their knowledge of such starts with a PARADOX of logic. And it is asked and reasoned with a very simple question that naturalism cannot explain. "If the universe is a product of self generation which began with the supposed "BIG BANG" that was produced from a "Cosmic Egg" of "enormous heat and energy"......How did the "cosmic egg" come into existence? No matter how you CIRCULARLY ARGUE....somewhere down the line of gestation, SOMETHING, had to be a product of creation for NOTHING CAN EXIST BEFORE SOMETHING CAUSES IT TO EXIST.

Another point of reason that confuses the secular mind is the fact they seem intent upon telling us everything we need to know about LIFE. Yet, NO ONE can tell us were it came from or in fact just what it is. According to naturalism.....if we start with Hydrogen, a clear, odorless, vaporous gas and wait 13.7 billion years we will have Life as we know it. They claim that all life came from such...with a few variables presented along the way, yet they explain these variables.....again IN THEORY ONLY. And even in today's world of technological advancements, No One can tell us just what "force" it is that quickens a clump of inert matter and brings animation to it, animation so great that it is "self aware" with cognation to reason logic. But still they claim to know all there is to know about life and expect us to accept their knowledge as paramount.

Its true, they can label every part of the body human...right down to the last molecule, they can tell us what caused its death...simply because it is physically visible, this, they can seem to "grasp". The problem being anyone can take an example of life...be it animal or plant, bring it to a lab setting, dismantle it, label it, study it.....and place all the parts under the microscope for study, but.....when they take all the parts they were presented with in the beginning and place them all back into the "exact" order from which they were dismantled...there is ONE THING missing, LIFE.

And the way they judge their life and pass judgment upon others in their ideology of ALL THINGS NATURAL.....is exactly the same thing as how they accuse people of faith of living their life....IMAGINED, for indeed this is all they present in their life.....PSEUDO KNOWLEDGE, an appearance of grasping knowledge without actually possessing what they strive for their entire life. For they continually TELL US....just what we should believe, yet they produce nothing except TALK to back up their demands that we should also accept their position of self generation. AT LEAST THAT'S THE WAY "I" IMAGINE THEM. (R)

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Very well said Ralph.
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Very well said Ralph.
Yes if I want to base my life upon "striving" or "grasping" for something...it might as well be for something that is ETERNAL, that does not go to the grave with me like.....PSEUDO KNOWLEDGE, for indeed "Just how can the product that is produced....us, be greater than "THAT" which gestated it?" Therefore, I merely accept my place as being inferior to that which is responsible for my existence....be it NATURE or DEITY, beed a knee, bow my head in reverence and ask? What would you have me do..... LORD? For unlike the "striving" secularist, I very well know the answer to the MEANING OF LIFE. "And God has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, SO THEY SHOULD SEEK THE LORD, IN THE HOPE THEY MIGHT GROPE FOR HIM AND FIND HIM, though he is not far from each ONE of us, AS WE HAVE OUR EXISTENCE IN HIM." -- Acts 17. For you see, I found what all men strive and grope for once that I accepted the TRUTH of this knowledge......we live and exist in HIM, because He is the UNIVERSE, and we are a NATURAL part of HIM, and with this knowledge comes the PEACE and comfort of being able to enjoy MY life that is in reality a GIFT from our ETERNAL FATHER. Today my only striving is made in the comfort of FAITH, HOPE, AND LOVE....with love of course being PARAMOUNT....not the quest for knowledge that is beyond my grasp. When I want true knowledge....I merely open THE BOOK, thereof, it may and does have its limits, but it is REAL. (R)

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There is proof of course that Jesus did exist, but his divinity is an entirely different matter.....so many fables come from something real and then get taller and taller over time and are edited by people with an agenda, as we know The Bible was.

Hmmmm, let' s see, how do we take the basic teachings of an enlightened fellow and use them to manipulate people? We first make him the son of a virgin, because if Mary got it from Joseph, she would be unclean because sex is bad. Then, we exaggerate a few things he did to make them look like miracles....and then we give him a god complex...and then we kill him to martyr him....and then we have witnesses say he resurrected and that he will be back so we better watch ourselves or else.....

It's fanciful, but transparent; and if he was the son of God and had all this information that he passed on to The Apostles to write gospels to teach us things, and we had Genesis to help us understand the origins of The Universe, why then many centuries later were holy men still punishing anyone who said the earth was round and not the center of The Universe?

God should know how The Universe is constructed, since he did it right?

The whole thing is so full of holes you could use it to strain pasta.
That's why it takes a courageous step of faith to be a Christian.

How convenient that so many homosexuals are also non-believers
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