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Old 07-03-2008, 02:58 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Atheism offers many more positives than do any religions. It offers truth, happiness and respect for your fellow man as an equal. It offers tolerance and a world based on reason, not on faith.
Although this post is not about atheism, but when I bought my new car two weeks ago, the person who handled the financial papers was Lebanese himself. Just like the Iranian fellow who worked at a car dealership eight years ago, I treated this man with a great deal of respect. I could tell that he was living a happier life in the USA than in the war-torn country he came from.

I was glad to have met him.
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Old 07-03-2008, 02:59 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Most religions offer truth, happiness and respect for fellow men.

On what basis does atheism offer these things?

Let's face it, atheism is really just angry ex-christians!
What religion offers truth?

Which offers happiness? Most teach you to punish yourself in this world for happiness in a make believe later world...

No abrahamic religion teaches respect for their fellow man...
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Old 07-03-2008, 02:59 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Most religions offer truth, happiness and respect for fellow men.

On what basis does atheism offer these things?

Let's face it, atheism is really just angry ex-christians!
LOL, you say the same thing about my religion, which clearly offers all those things as well.
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Actually you did, by bringing up the movie Zeitgeist, when I had not. This thread has nothing to do with that film. You brought it up because you assumed all my beliefs were centered on that film. You were trying to make me look like a ditto head, but it won't work sir, because I am educated and more intelligent than you give me credit for. Your desire to side step the discussion at hand is a ploy that is easily seen through.
Regardless of my mentioning that movie, you claimed that:

"I have the ability to think on my own. I do not have a system of beliefs based off of a movie, or any other single source of information"

which, as we both agreed, has nothing to do with you arriving at the right conclusions.
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Those are scientifically documented processes. We know EXACTLY how those things work.
Perhaps Gary should explain how these things work, in his own words, of course.
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What religion offers truth?

Which offers happiness? Most teach you to punish yourself in this world for happiness in a make believe later world...

No abrahamic religion teaches respect for their fellow man...

Matt 5:43-44

43 Ye have heard that it was said, Thou shalt love thy neighbor, and hate thine enemy:

44 but I say unto you, love your enemies, and pray for them that persecute you;
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Although this post is not about atheism, but when I bought my new car two weeks ago, the person who handled the financial papers was Lebanese himself. Just like the Iranian fellow who worked at a car dealership eight years ago, I treated this man with a great deal of respect. I could tell that he was living a happier life in the USA than in the war-torn country he came from.

I was glad to have met him.
Lebanon is a war-torn country?
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Most religions offer truth, happiness and respect for fellow men.

On what basis does atheism offer these things?

Let's face it, atheism is really just angry ex-christians!
No, they're not. If they have been atheists all their lives, then they were born that way. Why don't you talk with an atheist and ask them how and why they became atheists, other than they would say, "Oh well, I don't believe in the man upstairs."
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Lebanon is a war-torn country?
You saying they are not?
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No, they're not. If they have been atheists all their lives, then they were born that way. Why don't you talk with an atheist and ask them how and why they became atheists, other than they would say, "Oh well, I don't believe in the man upstairs."
What would they say if I asked them willie?
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