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Old 07-03-2008, 06:31 PM   #71 (permalink)
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No Grace...Tadpole DIDN'T cherry pick anything. Quite the opposite in fact considering he's taking in the full picture while you are crying 'that's old jewish law...Not 'my' interpretation' as an argument.

And nobody here is showing any intolerance towards Christianity. You may want to intepret it as such, but crying it is doesn't make it so. Just because some of us take in the full picture, and reject that full picture along with the bits you'd like to be preferred, doesn't equate to 'intolerance'...

You are free to believe as you will...I won't enact any laws to try and make your beliefs illegal, or even your preferences illegal. That shows a great deal of tolerance in fact, to allow you the right to believe as you want...

But when YOU use your beliefs as a means to invalidate MY beliefs, or presume superiority of another's beliefs? Then darling YOU are the one showing 'intolerance'...Not the other way around.

Now if you'd like, I'll be more then happy to help you cut down a tree so you can make yourself a cross and play martyr on...Cause that's what you're working up to...'Oh, I'm soooo prosecuted for being a Christian.'

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Old 07-03-2008, 06:31 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Way to over simplify the entire thing, and in doing so demonstrate complete ignorance of the subject. I have read your books... perhaps you should read some of mine. I think the only reason you don't is because you are afraid you will lose your faith if you do. The truth will set you free.
You have no idea what I have read, nor do you know my knowledge on these subjects, which I can garrenty you are better than average.
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Your tree God wouldnt be to happy about that now would they?
See, you are an atheist too... I just believe in one less god than you do?

Can you tell me how you disprove Zeus, Thor, or the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Seriously, how is it that it seems perfectly logical to you to not believe in most gods, but the one with which you were brainwashed must be believed in?
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Old 07-03-2008, 06:34 PM   #74 (permalink)
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The fact that you think the catholic church is the only true form of Christianity tells me everything I need to know. Please continue in your ignorance, I have no more time for you.
Well at least you know when to admit intellectual defeat.

Way to bow out gracefully.
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My "interpretation" has nothing to do with it. It IS old test Jewish law. This isnt debatable.
Yet, Christianity is created from and based off of OLD JEWISH LAW...Which means as much as you'd like to throw away the parts you don't like, they are still relevant to the complete ideology of Christianity...Otherwise ya'll would only have a New Testment without it's being attached to the Old Testement.

And it is actually kind of funny, that you'll spout the 10 Commandments when it suits you to do so on issues you like/don't like...But yet it's actually 'Old Jewish Law'...Not Christian law. Christians adopted it, but the laws themself are Jewish Law...

Thanks for proving Tadpole and my point of 'cherry picking' the portions you like or use, while ignoring the portions you don't by labeling as unimportant, unrelated, not your perferred interpretation.

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No, saying he wants to save the world from Christianity is intolerance, but you just go ahead and see what you want to. You always do.
You didn't say just Tadpole...YOU said 'You people talk of tolerance, but are about the most untolerant bunch of people I have ever seen.'

If it's just 'Tad' you're offended by and showing you intolerance, then address it as 'Tad is showing intolerance'...But when you lump everyone into the same catagory as you're lumping Tad...Then don't be surprised when those you're lumping in with him to set you straight...

Because there's a number of people here that haven't shown any intolerance towards you or your beliefs...Disagree with your beliefs or opinions...But disagreeing with them isn't 'intolerance'.

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Hu? why are you bringing legislation into this?
You really have to ask what legislation has to do with it? When individuals like yourself are constantly screaming 'it's a CHRISTIAN nation'...'we need a CHRISTIAN President that puts CHRISTIAN ideologies into law' iin regards to personal rights and privelages such as abortion or SSM?

Despite the fact that not all American's are Christians let alone all Christians follow the same principles, nor should be forced to adopt a segment of Christian principles/ideologies that go against their own teachings or ideologies? Just your 'preferred' Christian ideology/interpretation?

Sorry, but not only does the Constitution guarentee freedom of religion...It also guarentees freedom FROM religion as well. And in this case, we should be free to not be forced to conform to your particular flavor of Christianity in regards to our personal freedoms in regards to our own bodies or who our adult partners should be.

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I dont know what the hell you are talking about. When did I invalidate your beliefs? In Fact this whole thread is about trying to invalidate MY beliefs. Any fool can clearly see that.
ROTFLMAOL! So now you're going to deny telling myself or other pagans here that our beliefs aren't 'real beliefs', or that our beliefs are insuperior to yours because we don't follow the same ideology or conformity to your 'God'?

I don't have enough toes and fingers to count the number of times you've personally told me my beliefs were wrong, against 'God', and I'd go to hell unless I 'opened my eyes to the truth' of your personal choice and interpretation of your particular strain of religion.

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Your tree God wouldnt be to happy about that now would they?
And like I've told you before...Druids worship trees...I'm not a Druid. Just like I'm not a witch yet you can't seem to keep straight either.

But how could I expect you to even know the basics of the different Pagan ideologies, when you can't even understand the different Christian ideologies there are either let alone respect those differences without playing the 'my version is the better version' game?

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Old 07-04-2008, 06:54 AM   #79 (permalink)
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Well at least you know when to admit intellectual defeat.

Way to bow out gracefully.

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I dont see any place in the bible where it says you must be a Catholic. You show me where it does.
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Yet, Christianity is created from and based off of OLD JEWISH LAW...Which means as much as you'd like to throw away the parts you don't like, they are still relevant to the complete ideology of Christianity...Otherwise ya'll would only have a New Testment without it's being attached to the Old Testement.
So then you never actualy read the new test then hu?
Romans 7:4
4So, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God.

Christianity came from the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Christ, it didnt come from old test Jewish law

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And it is actually kind of funny, that you'll spout the 10 Commandments when it suits you to do so on issues you like/don't like...But yet it's actually 'Old Jewish Law'...Not Christian law. Christians adopted it, but the laws themself are Jewish Law...

Thanks for proving Tadpole and my point of 'cherry picking' the portions you like or use, while ignoring the portions you don't by labeling as unimportant, unrelated, not your perferred interpretation.
Again, you totaly lack understanding of the situation, for if you had knowledge of the new test you would know that 1 there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus,[a] 2because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death. Romans 8

I ignore nothing, its you who have no understanding.
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You didn't say just Tadpole...YOU said 'You people talk of tolerance, but are about the most untolerant bunch of people I have ever seen.'

If it's just 'Tad' you're offended by and showing you intolerance, then address it as 'Tad is showing intolerance'...But when you lump everyone into the same catagory as you're lumping Tad...Then don't be surprised when those you're lumping in with him to set you straight...
I would have just said Tad, if you werent being his little cheerleader. By you thanking him for such posts, you attach yourself to them.
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Because there's a number of people here that haven't shown any intolerance towards you or your beliefs...Disagree with your beliefs or opinions...But disagreeing with them isn't 'intolerance'.
You said yourself that trying to invalidate someones beliefs is being intolerant. Well take a good look around AP, nearly every thread in this sec is meant to invalidate my beliefs. Denie it all you want, it is what it is.
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You really have to ask what legislation has to do with it? When individuals like yourself are constantly screaming 'it's a CHRISTIAN nation'...'we need a CHRISTIAN President that puts CHRISTIAN ideologies into law' iin regards to personal rights and privelages such as abortion or SSM?
You mean I vote according to my conscience? So what? So does every other person that votes. Its my right as a American, and I will never apoligize for it. You dont like it, then move someplace else. I myself am glad that every American has a say in our goverment (whether thats actualy true or not is another matter) By the people, for the people. There are pleanty of other countries you could move to where Christians have no say, maybe you would be more happy someplace else.
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Despite the fact that not all American's are Christians let alone all Christians follow the same principles, nor should be forced to adopt a segment of Christian principles/ideologies that go against their own teachings or ideologies? Just your 'preferred' Christian ideology/interpretation?

Sorry, but not only does the Constitution guarentee freedom of religion...It also guarentees freedom FROM religion as well. And in this case, we should be free to not be forced to conform to your particular flavor of Christianity in regards to our personal freedoms in regards to our own bodies or who our adult partners should be.
No one is forcing anything on you, this is the biggest bunch of hyperpole crap I have ever seen.
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ROTFLMAOL! So now you're going to deny telling myself or other pagans here that our beliefs aren't 'real beliefs'
No more than you have done to me. What makes you better??
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I don't have enough toes and fingers to count the number of times you've personally told me my beliefs were wrong, against 'God', and I'd go to hell unless I 'opened my eyes to the truth' of your personal choice and interpretation of your particular strain of religion.
BS. I dont even get involved in the very few threads that you have talked about your religion, till it turned into a bash the Christains thread.
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And like I've told you before...Druids worship trees...I'm not a Druid. Just like I'm not a witch yet you can't seem to keep straight either.
See thats the thing, I really dont care what you believe. Im not obsessed with what you believe the way you are concerning what I believe.
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But how could I expect you to even know the basics of the different Pagan ideologies, when you can't even understand the different Christian ideologies there are either let alone respect those differences without playing the 'my version is the better version' game?
What the hell do you mean I dont understand different Christian ideologies? Where do you come up with this crap?
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