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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 07-05-2008, 08:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 07-06-2008, 07:39 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I got about 4 mins in to this trash. He had my full attention right up till he said we have a great deal of information regarding the origin of the universe. As if.
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We do have a great deal of information as to the origin of the universe. Again you demonstrate the problem with your side of this debate, you gave him 4 minutes? FOUR MINUTES?!!! That is an intellectual shame. We have read your books, but you cannot give an educated man more than 4 minutes to make his point? Then you have to resort to calling it trash?

Face it, this is little more than you sheltering yourself because you are afraid to challenge your beliefs. If the bible is the unerring word of god, it can withstand any challenge, and should be challenged, because only through challenge can it truly demonstrate it's strength.

The problem is that whenever it is challenged it crumbles, that is why religious people are terrified of those who question.
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:58 AM   #4 (permalink)
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We do have a great deal of information as to the origin of the universe. Again you demonstrate the problem with your side of this debate, you gave him 4 minutes? FOUR MINUTES?!!! That is an intellectual shame. We have read your books, but you cannot give an educated man more than 4 minutes to make his point? Then you have to resort to calling it trash?
We have ZERO information regarding the origin of the universe. ZERO. We have a bunch of made up stories that have so many holes in them it looks like swiss Cheese. Stories that cant even hold true by the things we DO know about science. It is a "intellectual shame" to say other wise. Now if he said we have some idea's, or some opinions, or thoughts, that might have been different. To say we have "information" is a bold face lie. I know it, and whether or not you want to admit it, you know it. Why should I give this guy another second of my time, when his very first thoughts are striaght lies? Never mind the very first thing the guy said was "religion poison's everything". Does my church poison everything as we feed the poor? As we pray for the well being of the community? Forget that and forget his God hating ass.
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Face it, this is little more than you sheltering yourself because you are afraid to challenge your beliefs. If the bible is the unerring word of god, it can withstand any challenge, and should be challenged, because only through challenge can it truly demonstrate it's strength.
Sheltered life??? LOL, lets stop pretending you know me ok? Cause really you have no idea. I wasnt raised with any religion at all, and wasnt till much later in life did Christ call me to him. I have tested the scripture in everyway that I knew to, and it proved its self true to me, in ways Hitchens will never be able to do. In ways you will never be able to take from me.

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The problem is that whenever it is challenged it crumbles, that is why religious people are terrified of those who question.
Says people who lie and twist truth to make there points.
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We have ZERO information regarding the origin of the universe. ZERO. We have a bunch of made up stories that have so many holes in them it looks like swiss Cheese. Stories that cant even hold true by the things we DO know about science. It is a "intellectual shame" to say other wise. Now if he said we have some idea's, or some opinions, or thoughts, that might have been different. To say we have "information" is a bold face lie. I know it, and whether or not you want to admit it, you know it. Why should I give this guy another second of my time, when his very first thoughts are striaght lies? Never mind the very first thing the guy said was "religion poison's everything". Does my church poison everything as we feed the poor? As we pray for the well being of the community? Forget that and forget his God hating ass.

Sheltered life??? LOL, lets stop pretending you know me ok? Cause really you have no idea. I wasnt raised with any religion at all, and wasnt till much later in life did Christ call me to him. I have tested the scripture in everyway that I knew to, and it proved its self true to me, in ways Hitchens will never be able to do. In ways you will never be able to take from me.


Says people who lie and twist truth to make there points.
Thanks for proving my point... Nothing like a fine demonstration of ignorant hate-mongering and lies to make my point all the more valid. You just keep "praying" for the community... People like me will continue to actually DO something to make things better...
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:11 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Thanks for proving my point... Nothing like a fine demonstration of ignorant hate-mongering and lies to make my point all the more valid. You just keep "praying" for the community... People like me will continue to actually DO something to make things better...

I willfully accept your defeat. You will be well treated.
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I willfully accept your defeat. You will be well treated.
How fucking delusional can you be? Perhaps you should lay down before you hurt yourself toots... You couldn't defeat me in a debate if I were comatose...
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:29 AM   #8 (permalink)
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How fucking delusional can you be? Perhaps you should lay down before you hurt yourself toots... You couldn't defeat me in a debate if I were comatose...

Delusional?? And now you are using the f word, LOL? What else could I assume? You didnt respond to a single thing I posted, and now you are coming unraveled and feel you have to curse at a women no less. Relax, let it go. And you guys tell us we are hatefull, lol.
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Delusional?? And now you are using the f word, LOL? What else could I assume? You didnt respond to a single thing I posted, and now you are coming unraveled and feel you have to curse at a women no less. Relax, let it go. And you guys tell us we are hatefull, lol.
What was there to respond to? It was mindless hateful drivel... There wasn't an intelligent thought in your post...

As for cursing... Do I exercise my freedom of speech? Fucking right I do! And what the hell does your being a woman have to do with anything? What is this the 1930's?
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:41 AM   #10 (permalink)
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What was there to respond to? It was mindless hateful drivel... There wasn't an intelligent thought in your post...
There was nothing hatefull about it. And it was complety true, every word. If you dont want to deal the the debate at hand, then I gotta assume you bowed out.
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As for cursing... Do I exercise my freedom of speech? Fucking right I do! And what the hell does your being a woman have to do with anything? What is this the 1930's?
I never said you couldnt curse. It just says alot about you, and your stance in this argument. It really only makes me look better, so please continue with your foul keyboard mouth.
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