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Old 07-22-2008, 09:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Group Ordains 3 Women Catholic Priests

By The Associated Press
07.21.2008 8:23am EDT

(Boston, Massachusetts) An activist group hoping to pressure the Roman Catholic church into dropping its long-standing prohibition barring women from the priesthood says it ordained three women on Sunday.


Church officials did not recognize the ordination, and the Vatican has previously warned that women taking part in ordination ceremonies will be excommunicated.

The group known as Roman Catholic Womenpriests held the ceremony at the Church of the Covenant, a Protestant Church in Boston.
The group said the three women - Gloria Carpeneto of Baltimore, Judy Lee of Fort Myers, Fla., and Gabriella Velardi Ward of New York City - are responding to a heartfelt call to serve the church as priests.
A fourth woman, Mary Ann McCarthy Schoettly of Newton, N.J., was ordained as a deacon, the group said.
The Archdiocese of Boston issued a statement decrying the ceremony.
“Catholics who attempt to confer a sacred order on a woman, and the women who attempt to receive a sacred order, are by their own actions separating themselves from the church,” the archdiocese said.
The group says the women who are ordained remain loyal members of the church and will act as priests whether they are excommunicated or not.
Sunday’s ordination ceremony was performed by two women the group describes as bishops - Ida Raming of Struttgart, Germany, and Dana Reynolds from California.
The ceremony “is not in compliance with their man-made rules, but it’s certainly in compliance with the Roman Catholic ordination rituals because our bishops were ordained by all-male Roman Catholic bishops who are in good standing with the church,” as provided by the church’s ordination rituals, said Bridget Mary Meehan, the group’s spokeswoman.
The group, which was formed in 2002, has conducted similar ceremonies in the U.S. and other parts of the world.
In March, the archbishop of St. Louis excommunicated three women - two Americans and a South African who were part of the Womenpriests movement - for participating in a woman’s ordination.
Pope Benedict XVI, like his predecessor, Pope John Paul II, has rebuffed calls to change traditional church teachings on the requirement that priests be male.
Catholics who are excommunicated cannot receive sacraments. The penalty can be lifted if those who have been punished are sincerely repentant.
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Old 07-22-2008, 01:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It's funny how delusional this is... They aren't priests... How can you be a priest if you are not recognized by your own church? They "became" Roman Catholic priests, in a Protestant church? WTF? These women have not been ordained any more so than I have...

I mean, if I went around calling myself an emperor just because some watery tart lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd call me mad!
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Old 07-22-2008, 01:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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thanks for the laugh tadpole...I mean I really laughed out loud. I do agree.
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It's funny how delusional this is... They aren't priests... How can you be a priest if you are not recognized by your own church? They "became" Roman Catholic priests, in a Protestant church? WTF? These women have not been ordained any more so than I have...

I mean, if I went around calling myself an emperor just because some watery tart lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd call me mad!



In a purely logical sense, you are correct. But what has ever been logical about religion?

These women are engaging in the religious equivalent of civil disobedience. And, so long as they are willing to accept the consequences, I say "good for them!" If institutions change it is because people challenge the status quo and force that change. The Catholic Church is no different.
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Since these women are now excommunicated, I wonder if, instead of the Roman Church making any changes, these women or those who approve of their actions will form a new church?

A Reformed Feminist Catholic Church.

The RFCC.

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