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| Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics? |
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 10,401 Country: ![]()
| FLDS charges filed... Indicted: Polygamous sect leader Jeffs, followers charged with sexually assaulting girls - Salt Lake Tribune ELDORADO, Texas - A Schleicher County grand jury indicted polygamous sect leader Warren S. Jeffs and five other FLDS men Tuesday on charges related to sexual assaults on underage girls. The grand jury handed down seven indictments, which contained a total of nine charges. Jeffs, currently awaiting trial in Arizona, is accused of one first-degree felony count of sexually assaulting a child. Four other men were indicted for allegedly sexually assaulting girls under the age of 17. Each of those suspects faces one felony count of sex assault, and one faces an additional charge of bigamy. Not really enough information to make a determination in the actual charges since we don't know the actual people and the ages. But to prove "systemic" and justify $14 million spent, they better do better than this. This is my new signature. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Moderator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: San Diego, CA Gender: ![]() Posts: 5,705 Country: ![]()
| So this means that Jeffs will get moved from Phoenix to EL Dorado, TX. Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psalm 119:105 | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 10,401 Country: ![]()
| Actually as long as he's in prison. it really doesn't matter. That guy should never live free again. This is my new signature. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Congressional Representative ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey Gender: ![]() Posts: 2,428 Country: ![]()
| Quote: Originally Posted by waitingtables (South Dakota just won't quit) You are wrong about me hating on their rights to exist. They can exist all they like, they can't abuse children and force marriage and sex on teenage girls. Who by the way, have not been given any information about anything other than how to behave in order to get into heaven and to please their leader. It is a cult, and not just because I say so. And I don't know how you are saying now that you don't agree with their lifestyle, you have been defending it all along. Quote by fx: Quote:
And I find it very interesting that you consider my concern for the safety and rights of children to be hatred. You are one screwed up mo fo. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 10,401 Country: ![]()
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And they are asking the Feds to investigate what? A successful religious institution? Why? Isn't that again persecution? Looks like they had good reason not to trust the government. You can be concerned for children all you want. Just don't make up bullshit and new persecutorial laws to "trap" people that were otherwise living within the prior ones. I find it interesting that you would advocate denying these people their fundamental rights as parents to persue some pipedream accusations that have yet to be proven to be intrinsic to this group. So far nothing more common has been found in the FLDS that isn't found anywhere else in Texas. You are one f'd in the head itch-be This is my new signature. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Congressional Representative ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey Gender: ![]() Posts: 2,428 Country: ![]()
| The federal government has laws on the books that prohibit fraud, racketeering and kidnapping. And it has the tools to investigate them, in cases where the states do not have the resources to do so. I highly doubt that 4 District attorneys or Attorney Gernerals for the 4 states are persecuting a simple religious belief. It is the behavior by those in power that is illegal, not their beliefs. And there are also civil rights issues involved, not to mention the sexual assault of children. But in your mind, if that is a part of your religion, then it's okay to do that. The first ammendment does not protect people who commit crimes even if they believe it is a tenet of their faith. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| SIMPLETON Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: In my skin Gender: ![]() Posts: 10,401 Country: ![]()
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In my mind huh? LOL. You have no idea what my POV is. Even though I have stated it several times. I guess that to be expected from you though. You have you so far proven false idea about this case too. This is my new signature. | ||||||||||||||||||||||
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| These hearings are a joke. Just a call for a witch hunt. The FLDS were right to be wary. ?Difficult to penetrate? : Washington : Times Record News Just repeating the same unproven allegations. How do you have a fair hearing when you don't even allow the people to appear before you to address your concerns. Sad. I hope the Feds don't get involved in this mess. Some curious highlights... Federal involvement could have led to draining the sect’s financial means to buy hundreds of acres in remote Schleicher County and to build a secretive compound, Abbott said after leaving the hearing. Tax evasion, racketeering, mail fraud, child abuse and illegally transporting children across state lines for underage marriages were all touched on as suspected offenses during the hearing. The FLDS has a business empire spread across several states, sect children often don’t attend public schools and the religion’s members are usually more afraid of authorities than harmful sect members because of the disastrous Short Creek raid 55 years ago, federal and state attorneys testified. Persecution, slander, and I didn't know it was illegal to home school your kids. Do they pass tests designed to monitor home schooled kids? It appears the state doesn't bother.... http://www.rickross.com/reference/po...lygamy567.html This is my new signature. Last edited by fxashun; 07-25-2008 at 12:49 PM. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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| Congressional Representative ![]() Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: New Jersey Gender: ![]() Posts: 2,428 Country: ![]()
| You can say numerous times that you don't support them, but each time you post you show that you actually do, or you would submit that there is illegal activity going on there, and legitimate evidence to investigate it. The first example is of their leader serving time and being brought up on more charges. I guess that means nothing at all, they must have convicted him without evidence. | |||||||||||||||||||||
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