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Old 05-20-2006, 03:04 PM   #121 (permalink)
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They appear out of a corrupt muderous cult, not America. They don't come from America. They were around for hundreds of years before there ever was an America. If you know history like you say then you should know that.

We supported the Mujahadeen in Afghainstan because they were fighting the Soviets. We gave them stinger missiles. Then, we forgot about them, and they became the Taliban.

We sold weapons to Iran and Iraq. We gave Saddam Hussein biological and chemical weapons technology.

We propped up Kuwait during the first Gulf War, where they put electric drills through people's skulls.

We supported Shah Reza Pahelvi, who was hated by his people, inflaming anti-American sentiments which the Ayatollah Khomeni feasted upon.

True, there have always been corrupt dictators. There have probably been corrupt Muslim leaders since the inception of Islam, just as there have been corrupt Christian leaders since the inception of Christianity, and so on. However, these leaders did not emerge from a vaccuum. America didn't cause all of them, but it certainly propped up or put in place most of the modern ones.



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Old 05-20-2006, 03:05 PM   #122 (permalink)
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Why wouldn't I advocate that? If they want to get married, let them get married. It's not illegal. Read I Corinthians 6: 9-10 and
Romans 1:24-27. I don't need Leviticus to biblically prove homosexuality is a sin according to the bible. It's right there in the New Testament twice.
So you ignore an entire half of your theology?

Oh... And it would be polygamy.
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Old 05-20-2006, 04:44 PM   #123 (permalink)
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We supported the Mujahadeen in Afghainstan because they were fighting the Soviets. We gave them stinger missiles. Then, we forgot about them, and they became the Taliban.

We sold weapons to Iran and Iraq. We gave Saddam Hussein biological and chemical weapons technology.

We propped up Kuwait during the first Gulf War, where they put electric drills through people's skulls.

We supported Shah Reza Pahelvi, who was hated by his people, inflaming anti-American sentiments which the Ayatollah Khomeni feasted upon.

True, there have always been corrupt dictators. There have probably been corrupt Muslim leaders since the inception of Islam, just as there have been corrupt Christian leaders since the inception of Christianity, and so on. However, these leaders did not emerge from a vaccuum. America didn't cause all of them, but it certainly propped up or put in place most of the modern ones.
That's true, but to blame America for all the corruption in the world is just not right. It was a violent world long before America. America will make friends and do whatever it takes in our interest. We do what is best for America. Sometimes that includes being allies with murderers and corrup leaders if we have a common enemy. America and Stalin were allies during WWII because we had a common enemy, Hitler, but we hated them and they hated us.
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So you ignore an entire half of your theology?

Oh... And it would be polygamy.
What do you mean I ignore half of my theology? I don't live by the bible. I just happen to have studied it.

It would be legal polygamy because Jewish law allowed for that.
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Looks like Germany does not think Islam is the way forward. Sounds like trouble brewing.

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Looks like Germany does not think Islam is the way forward. Sounds like trouble brewing.

http://tinyurl.com/nkrze

If Muslims, Christians, Jewish, etc would all just become honest about the question of God we might be able to have some peace on earth.
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What do you mean I ignore half of my theology? I don't live by the bible. I just happen to have studied it.

It would be legal polygamy because Jewish law allowed for that.
Jewish law does not allow for polygamy. The Bible does, however, if you take every single word literally. If you did that, there would be a lot more stonings and goat killings.

Basically, you only go by the New Testament, and not the old one.
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Looks like Germany does not think Islam is the way forward. Sounds like trouble brewing.

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Germany has a long history of xenophobia, even in the post-Nazi era. There have been many attacks against immigrant Turks and their children. I read one article in which an entire apartment building was burned down because it was primarily inhabited by Turks.
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If Muslims, Christians, Jewish, etc would all just become honest about the question of God we might be able to have some peace on earth.
Like I alwasy say, religion is the devil's playground. The devil is the most religious being on the planet and he knows how to use it to his advantage.
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If Muslims, Christians, Jewish, etc would all just become honest about the question of God we might be able to have some peace on earth.
And if hkjabwa would just become honest about the question of Baha'u'lla he might see why Islam is no better than any other faith.
But of course he continues to ignore my question (asked several days ago)
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