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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 11-01-2006, 12:58 AM   #121 (permalink)
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Ill say this. If there is no Muslim or Wiccan on the Football team, why bother worrying about it?

Im sure there are exceptions to that scenario, but seriously. I beleive in Fairness rather than absolute equality.


If I give a rich man a billion dollars, and a poor man a billion dollars, is it equal? yes. Is it fair? No.
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Old 11-01-2006, 05:50 AM   #122 (permalink)
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Ill say this. If there is no Muslim or Wiccan on the Football team, why bother worrying about it?
Maybe this is true in the middle of the bible belt but not so in the North East. Wiccans are all over New England and Muslims are in all the big Cities.
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Im sure there are exceptions to that scenario, but seriously. I beleive in Fairness rather than absolute equality.
Fairness and absolute equality are exactly the same thing.
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If I give a rich man a billion dollars, and a poor man a billion dollars, is it equal? yes. Is it fair? No.
Why is it not fair? In this simple text and example you have provided, it absolutely is fair, unless your bias.
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:33 AM   #123 (permalink)
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Ill say this. If there is no Muslim or Wiccan on the Football team, why bother worrying about it?
It's kind of the "If you can't play nice..." philosophy.
But I agree that if there is no Muslim or Wiccan on the team, then that prayer should not be an issue.


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Im sure there are exceptions to that scenario, but seriously. I beleive in Fairness rather than absolute equality.
I'm going to take this sentence in the context of the above, with regarding to no "absolute equality" for a religion which isn't even present on the team.


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If I give a rich man a billion dollars, and a poor man a billion dollars, is it equal? yes. Is it fair? No.
Can you elaborate on this statement?
I'm not sure what you're getting at.
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Old 11-01-2006, 10:32 PM   #124 (permalink)
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To give the rich man a billion dollars is equal to giving the poor man. But the rich man is already rich, so it wouldnt be fair to give him more money?

another analogy. I have a headache, you have a stomach ache. The nurse gives us both an aspirin cause of my headache. Equal, yes. Fair? no.

What is good for some is not good for all.


What would be fair in this context is to allow anyone who objects to obstain from praying at the football game. Or encouraging him or her, to pray in their own way themselves, or throw in a prayer of their choosing in the group.
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I think the bottom line should be, if you want your child to pray in school send them to a Catholic or other religious based school. Public schools should respect all religions and non-religions. In order to do this, they must be totally unbias, and this includes not saying a Christian prayer.

If this is to be true then the government should not (1) mandate childrens attendance in school, and (2) use tax money to support public education. Since it does, then the government must then establish schools that reflect the nation, including those who believe we are a Christian nation under God.

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