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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 08-09-2006, 12:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Let's see. Sex between people of the same gender.......homosexuality. That makes the guy a homoseuxal pedophile. There are heterosexual pedophiles also. Deal with it.
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Old 08-09-2006, 12:56 PM   #12 (permalink)
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This is NOT a religious problem.
It IS a problem with people abusing religion to commit crimes.
It is NOT a "gay marriage" issue...


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The nut-job is just a pervert who is claiming that he has started his own religion.
No argument here, but the issue goes deeper than that.

[quote=JeffersonHe's a pervert - having sex with children of the same gender as he is.[/QUOTE]
If a man molests a dead female colt, does that make him a heterosexual?
Heterosexuality and homosexuality deal with ADULT sexual attraction and ADULT sexual interaction.
Sex with children is PEDOPHILIA, regardless of gender.
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:00 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Let's see. Sex between people of the same gender.......homosexuality. That makes the guy a homoseuxal pedophile. There are heterosexual pedophiles also. Deal with it.
As foundit has already put it, homosexuality, especially in the context of gay marriage, is sexual attraction to the same sex between consenting adults. Pedophilia is attraction to children regardless of the gender.

Even so, it has nothing to do with gay marriage and just shows the original poster's ignorance on the subject.
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
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As foundit has already put it, homosexuality, especially in the context of gay marriage, is sexual attraction to the same sex between consenting adults. Pedophilia is attraction to children regardless of the gender.

Even so, it has nothing to do with gay marriage and just shows the original poster's ignorance on the subject.
It most certainly does have to do with gender. The guy picked only boys to abuse. He wasn't indescriminate like you suggest pedophiles are. The facts speak louder than your spin.
Old 08-09-2006, 01:24 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Facts? My spin? If you want to deal with facts, then here is the definition of a pedophile:

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ped·o·phile Audio pronunciation of "Pedophile" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (pd-fl, pd-)
n.

An adult who is sexually attracted to a child or children.
Note it only says children. And by following your logic, I could just as easily say that he only picked male children, he wasn't interested in male adults. Therefore he is a pedophile, not homosexual.

And even if you're right; how you could you possibly argue for putting this issue under the gay marriage board?
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Old 08-09-2006, 01:31 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Facts? My spin? If you want to deal with facts, then here is the definition of a pedophile:



Note it only says children. And by following your logic, I could just as easily say that he only picked male children, he wasn't interested in male adults. Therefore he is a pedophile, not homosexual.

And even if you're right; how you could you possibly argue for putting this issue under the gay marriage board?

I am right. He chose only males and he is a male. Therefore, logically the guy is a homosexual pedophile. If he had picked only girls he would be a heterosexual pedophile. If he had picked both he would be a bisexual pedophile.
Old 08-09-2006, 01:58 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I am right. He chose only males and he is a male. Therefore, logically the guy is a homosexual pedophile. If he had picked only girls he would be a heterosexual pedophile. If he had picked both he would be a bisexual pedophile.
No, he's a pedophile pedophile. Unless you give me evidence that he had sex with an adult male, then I'm willing to concede that he's homosexual.
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:10 PM   #18 (permalink)
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No, he's a pedophile pedophile. Unless you give me evidence that he had sex with an adult male, then I'm willing to concede that he's homosexual.
I don't have to give you anything. If you want to ignore the facts, that's your choice. The fact is he chose only males. You can ignore the facts all you want.
Old 08-09-2006, 02:24 PM   #19 (permalink)
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This is NOT a religious problem.

The nut-job is just a pervert who is claiming that he has started his own religion.

He's a pervert - having sex with children of the same gender as he is.
You say he is a pervert for having sex with children of the same gender as he is. I say he is a pervert for having sex with children. This topic is related to gay rights and gay marriage only as much as heterosexual pedophilia is related to straight rights and straight marriage. In either case, the pedophilia is the problematic part.

Since pedophilia cases appear all the time, I find the interesting part of this case to be that this man is trying to justify his crime by claiming that it is part of his religion. The debate could then commence about whether the guarantee of freedom of religion allows him to do these things in his apartment.

Because of that, I would have posted it in the religion forum, but hey, it's not my thread.
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Old 08-09-2006, 02:44 PM   #20 (permalink)
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You say he is a pervert for having sex with children of the same gender as he is. I say he is a pervert for having sex with children. This topic is related to gay rights and gay marriage only as much as heterosexual pedophilia is related to straight rights and straight marriage. In either case, the pedophilia is the problematic part.

Since pedophilia cases appear all the time, I find the interesting part of this case to be that this man is trying to justify his crime by claiming that it is part of his religion. The debate could then commence about whether the guarantee of freedom of religion allows him to do these things in his apartment.

Because of that, I would have posted it in the religion forum, but hey, it's not my thread.

That church that gets to use an illegal substance just because it is in their religion comes to mind.
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