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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 09-17-2006, 09:11 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I agree, but we are taking steps to help out the muslim women in afghanistan and iraq. A record number of girls and women are now getting an education, wich was unheard of a ten years ago. The muslim religion as a whole are not violent, but some extremeists are trying to disrupt life in every way they can.
Show me your source on this because Iraq and Afghanistan are theocracies now and women fair no better in Muslim religions than they do in Christian religions.
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Old 09-18-2006, 03:20 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Wow, if most muslims don't know the difference, what hope is there for us non-muslims? Can you recommend a good website that might have this information? Thanks.
hahahahaha.. i wish dude.. unfortunately there are thousands of websites with millions of interpretations.

I can however recommend one site. It is Al Islam Online - Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. This is the site of the ahmedi sect. It is the most progressive of all muslim faiths. And it has NO TERRORISTS. Complete prohibition of physical violence in the name of religion. It might be a good site to start from.

THe western world neess to understand that the muslim "culture" is fragmented. Just as the western/ christian culture is. France and the US are both protestant nations.. but look at the difference in their policies, legislation and political outlook.
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Old 09-18-2006, 01:31 PM   #23 (permalink)
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hahahahaha.. i wish dude.. unfortunately there are thousands of websites with millions of interpretations.

I can however recommend one site. It is Al Islam Online - Ahmadiyya Muslim Community. This is the site of the ahmedi sect. It is the most progressive of all muslim faiths. And it has NO TERRORISTS. Complete prohibition of physical violence in the name of religion. It might be a good site to start from.

THe western world neess to understand that the muslim "culture" is fragmented. Just as the western/ christian culture is. France and the US are both protestant nations.. but look at the difference in their policies, legislation and political outlook.
Thanks. Now I know where you got your tagline.

(BTW, I'm a "dudette".)
Old 09-18-2006, 02:14 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Old 09-18-2006, 02:17 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Are you kidding me? The US can't gain ANY support for ANY of their policies from anywhere except a bunch of irrelevant countries ( including denmark) and the UK. Even in THOSE country the americans are becoming less and less popular. Blair is definately not popular cuz of his ties with bush.

At lleast the muslims are too weak to actualyl bully anybody. That way the rest of the world is working out their problems with the muslims. However the US refuses to give even an inch. The arrogance of the US is FAR more detrimental to them than the stupidity of the muslim terrorists.
I would not call the countries that are allies of the US irrelevant. They are irrelevant to you is all. You cannot condemn the ones who fight terrorism and the terrorists at the same time. Terrorism is evil. The USA and the allies are not. I don't call killing 3000 people in a few minutes on 09/11 as being weak.
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Thanks. Now I know where you got your tagline.

(BTW, I'm a "dudette".)
yeah i was wondering when anybody would notice. I been suggesting the site for a while.

Thanks for checkin it out

and btw "dude" is just slang for "person"
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Show me your source on this because Iraq and Afghanistan are theocracies now and women fair no better in Muslim religions than they do in Christian religions.
I think you are mistaken on this. Christianity treats women far better than Islam. Christian women don't have to cover up everything.
Old 09-18-2006, 02:40 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I would not call the countries that are allies of the US irrelevant. They are irrelevant to you is all. You cannot condemn the ones who fight terrorism and the terrorists at the same time. Terrorism is evil. The USA and the allies are not. I don't call killing 3000 people in a few minutes on 09/11 as being weak.

no dude not at all.. these countries are irrelevant in a world context. Apart from the UK there is not a single member of the "coalition of the willing" that has any say in world politics.

You say terrorism is evil because one action killed 3000 people. How about the one war based on "WMDs" and "Al Qaeda links" that has killed 40000 civilians? That's not evil because the HUSA (Holy United States of America) did it right?

You are not fighting terrorism. You are just fighting.
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Old 09-18-2006, 04:02 PM   #29 (permalink)
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no dude not at all.. these countries are irrelevant in a world context. Apart from the UK there is not a single member of the "coalition of the willing" that has any say in world politics.

You say terrorism is evil because one action killed 3000 people. How about the one war based on "WMDs" and "Al Qaeda links" that has killed 40000 civilians? That's not evil because the HUSA (Holy United States of America) did it right?

You are not fighting terrorism. You are just fighting.
Who killed 40,000 civilians? You are confused again. The USA never killed 40,000 civilians in Iraq. Saddam killed over 100,000 civilians during his reign. Terrorists have killed thousands in Iraq since America removed Saddam and the people of Iraq have voted for their own government. The Iraqi army is now in charge in Iraq. Are they killing civlians also? I can find my way through your propaganda. Keep trying to confuse me because your arrogant enough to really believe that I am stupid and a dumb American infidel just because I don't buy your propaganda. It's not working.

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Old 09-18-2006, 08:01 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Who killed 40,000 civilians? You are confused again. The USA never killed 40,000 civilians in Iraq. Saddam killed over 100,000 civilians during his reign. Terrorists have killed thousands in Iraq since America removed Saddam and the people of Iraq have voted for their own government. The Iraqi army is now in charge in Iraq. Are they killing civlians also? I can find my way through your propaganda. Keep trying to confuse me because your arrogant enough to really believe that I am stupid and a dumb American infidel just because I don't buy your propaganda. It's not working.
I think he's talking about "collateral damage" in the war on terror, alias. Someone's been keeping a running total, even if the government hasn't.
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