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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 09-20-2006, 09:21 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Killing them has not worked. Think outside the box for a solution.

What hasn't worked?
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Old 09-20-2006, 09:35 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Killing has solved nothing. The conflict still exists. Think outside the box for a solution.
Old 09-20-2006, 09:58 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Killing has solved nothing. The conflict still exists. Think outside the box for a solution.
Okay I'm thinking outside the box...................................Kill the terrorists.

Here is a good thing: Kurdistan - The Other Iraq


You still have not told us what your solution is to terrorism.
Old 09-20-2006, 11:43 PM   #74 (permalink)
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islam is a religon of hate and violence.. thats what the western media is showing to the world and you know about the nature of men "they believe in every crap that they see or hear".. they never try to do their own research on anything.. exact same thing is happening with the poster of this topic.. yes it does say to fight but it also says to fight those who are fighting you or are doing harm to you and your religion..

and what makes other religions better then islam?? who were the crusaders?? all christians.. who was stalin?? a russian christian.. who was hitler?? a german christian.. who was masolini?? a christian.. who is sharoon?? a jew.. who is BUSH?? a christian.. who was Mao?? a communist buddhist..

now tell us about muslims who has murdered as many people as they have done..

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Old 09-20-2006, 11:51 PM   #75 (permalink)
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To overcome the "enemy" one must pierce the heart.


Right on!

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Old 09-22-2006, 01:25 AM   #76 (permalink)
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You're calling me a bigot after you accused me of being a white Christian or a Jew? That's funny. You're a hypocrite. I never said one thing about your race. I have challenged your religion because you came on here saying Islam was the answer to the problems of the world. I never attacked you ethnicity, yet you have done that to me. Why? Is that the muslim reaction when someone questions the validity of Islam? When challenged you react with anger like the guy in the video you just saw. Looks like you are proving my case just as the guy did in the video. Maybe you need to take a long look in a mirror and see who you really are.
Grasping at straws as always aren't we? Like i have kept repeating, i do not attack you because of your race, ethnicity or religion. I attack you for your hate fueled opinions that are of the same caliber as a terrorist.

I have certainly not reacted with anger in any form. And you are deluded if you think i have. At no point have i exhibited anything other than the highest level of patience with you. YOu have thrown all sorts of mud at me, my religion, my nationality and my ethnicity. Considering what you have been saying i have consistently DISPROVEN any prejudice you might have had about muslims. It is a different thing that you refuse to open your eyes to that.

I have never supported terrorism. I do not support violent acts of ANY sort by ANY party. If a man has been reduced to violence, that means that he has made a mistake somewhere. How does this belief make me anything like a terrorist?

Again dear alias i attack your stupidity.. the same stupidity that exists everywhere in the world and makes terrorists out of some people. I do not care about affiliations.. Stupid is stupid, no matter where or who or what you are....
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Old 09-22-2006, 11:09 AM   #77 (permalink)
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islam is a religon of hate and violence.. thats what the western media is showing to the world and you know about the nature of men "they believe in every crap that they see or hear".. they never try to do their own research on anything.. exact same thing is happening with the poster of this topic.. yes it does say to fight but it also says to fight those who are fighting you or are doing harm to you and your religion..

and what makes other religions better then islam?? who were the crusaders?? all christians.. who was stalin?? a russian christian.. who was hitler?? a german christian.. who was masolini?? a christian.. who is sharoon?? a jew.. who is BUSH?? a christian.. who was Mao?? a communist buddhist..

now tell us about muslims who has murdered as many people as they have done..
You're an IDIOT.

1. The Crusades - called by Pope Urban II were a DIRECT RESULT OF MUSLIM SLAUGHTER AND AGRESSION FROM THE SOUTH.
2. Stalin was not a Christian.
3. Hitler was not a Christian.
4. Mussolini was not a Christian.

You're an IDIOT. You've been deluded by your mindless blood-thirsty religion. You need to find a TA Support Group - for Terrorists Anonymous.
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Grasping at straws as always aren't we? Like i have kept repeating, i do not attack you because of your race, ethnicity or religion. I attack you for your hate fueled opinions that are of the same caliber as a terrorist.

I have certainly not reacted with anger in any form. And you are deluded if you think i have. At no point have i exhibited anything other than the highest level of patience with you. YOu have thrown all sorts of mud at me, my religion, my nationality and my ethnicity. Considering what you have been saying i have consistently DISPROVEN any prejudice you might have had about muslims. It is a different thing that you refuse to open your eyes to that.

I have never supported terrorism. I do not support violent acts of ANY sort by ANY party. If a man has been reduced to violence, that means that he has made a mistake somewhere. How does this belief make me anything like a terrorist?

Again dear alias i attack your stupidity.. the same stupidity that exists everywhere in the world and makes terrorists out of some people. I do not care about affiliations.. Stupid is stupid, no matter where or who or what you are....

Your theory is not reality. The stupidity is yours because you claim to be a pacifist and yet you slipped up and referred to me as either a white Christian or a Jew. You are a phoney. You have the same prejudices as other muslims. I can't take you seriously any more.
Old 09-22-2006, 12:04 PM   #79 (permalink)
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You're an IDIOT.

1. The Crusades - called by Pope Urban II were a DIRECT RESULT OF MUSLIM SLAUGHTER AND AGRESSION FROM THE SOUTH.
2. Stalin was not a Christian.
3. Hitler was not a Christian.
4. Mussolini was not a Christian.

You're an IDIOT. You've been deluded by your mindless blood-thirsty religion. You need to find a TA Support Group - for Terrorists Anonymous.
Now now jefferson.. no need to fly off the handle.

What ludin is trying to say is that americans do have a skewed vision regarding the nature of islam. The reason for this is that a bombing just makes better news that non-violence.

Now you have to understand that non-violence and terrorism are two different approaches to the same complaints. There IS a feeling of exploitation by the west that even the most peaceful muslim feels. Whether it is true or not is a different discussion. The point is that the west never sees the reports of all those who share the complaints of the terrorists, but DON'T choose to kill innocent people. This is not a conspriracy by the western media, but rather a reality of the nature of news reporting.

However as a result people like you and alias end up thinking that ALL muslims are potential terrorists. THat is not true. But we also cannot fault you for not knowing that.

However i do wish that you would open your eyes and ears a bit wider and believe me when i say that most muslims are NOT terrorists and they are exactly as capable of violence as any other grouping of people in the world. Circumstances dictate whether that potential is unleashed or not.

About the crusades, there is no way to tell. Perhaps the barbarity of the crusaders has been exagerrated.. maybe the muslims were not unruly hordes of barbarians pillaging the countryside. I know however that Islam as a religion has been pivotal in the intellectual development of the western world. The moors in spain lay the groundwork for the rennaisance.

Hitler, stalin and may not have been christian in their actions, but christianity was their stated religion. And it was religion they used to control their populations ( in stalin's case it was marxism, but still used as an opiate). This is just like Osama STATING that he is a true believer, but the muslim world agreeing that he is NOT a muslim. You should note that only far right wing fundos praise Osama as a true muslim. Most muslims do NOT agree with that.

HOWEVER, even though they condemn his method, they still agree with his complaints. This is the case with ahmedinejad. Most muslims do not agree with his firebrand type of islam. Many in fact work AGAINST it.. However most muslims also agree that somehow ahmedinejad has been exceptionally good at putting words to the complaints. It is in the interest of the US to listen. It will give you a good indication of the REAL problem, instead of the phantoms you are fighting now.
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Old 09-22-2006, 12:29 PM   #80 (permalink)
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I have NEVER, nor will I ever defend the actions of the "christians" during the Crusades.

But history DOES bear out the FACT that they were a RESPONSE to Muslim aggression and barbaric savagery.

You need to deal with that fact.
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