Islam began in Arabia in the 7th Century. In 632 Muslims (followers of Islam) invaded Palenstine and Mesopotemia. In 636, Egypt and Syria were invaded and in the 8th Century Pakistan. You're right they didn't invade a nation, more like 5.

See my previous post for the invasions. As for killing and torturing, I have already pointed out the Dutch cartoonist, and let us not forget the murder of Van Gogh. Islamist clearly state that either a person should convert to Islam or be killed. This is their belief. Mohammed himself would kill those who would not convert.

"Muhammad is the Apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, but ruthless to unbelievers" Sura 48:29.

"Kill the Mushrikun (unbelievers) wherever you find them, and capture them and besiege them, and lie in wait for them in each and every ambush..." Sura 9:5.

Tell me what oil have we taken from Iraq??? None. If we had do you truly think that our gas prices would be where they are, of course not, just another myth you try to force as fact.

Do 80% of Iraqi want the United States to leave Iraq, yes that is the number, but when these polls were taken and the word now was added the number dropped to 20%. Furthermore the official elected government, the government elected by the people of Iraq themselves, come now you remember the 12 million Iraqi's with purple fingers don't you, has actually stated that they want the United States to remain until the nation stabilizes.

So other than myths and falsehoods what have your provided, not a thing!

dmk

One could find worse quotes from Deuteronomy in the Bible's Old Testament, and instead of pointing out a few Christians who are generous, he could point out a few Christians who murder people.

People of every religion vary from very kind to very evil. I don't think we should be judging people by their religion, but instead by their actions.

Thats just cause your blinded to the evil of Islam. The Koran was written 600 years after the new test, so it would make more sence to compare the new test to the Koran. Go ahead, I'll wait.


The biggest difference between the two that I can see is the "moderates" of Islam refuse to speak against the evil there religon. Where as Christains will be the first to tell a fellow believer that there fucking up. And thats all the difference in the world.

I think there's a pretty good argument to be made for comparing the "founders" of Christianity and Islam.

Jesus was, arguably, the purest, most peaceful and best man who ever lived. His teaching were fantastic, and his life matched his teachings.

After moving to Medina, Muhammad became a war-mongering, murderous savage. He perseonally led his armies into many battles, and his followers slaugthered literally thousands upon thousands of people.


If you were going to pick one "founder" whose followers were more likely to be peaceful, which one would it be?

If you were going to pick one "founder" whose followers were more likely to be blood-thirsty savages, which one would it be?

The old testament is not enforced. The Quran is. Tell me how many Christians are doing what the muslims are doing all over the world? Give us some links to Christians beheading people, flying airliners into tall buildings full of thousands of people, blowing themselves up with car bombs in crowded markets, Baptists blowing up Catholic churches or vice versa, etc. And don't use Timothy McVeigh. He did not do his little dirty deed in the name of Jesus.

You just answered you own question with your last sentence. We are judging them by their actions.

I am not blind to the evil words contained in the Qu'ran, just as I am not blind to the evil actions of some Muslims. But I am also not blind to the fact that not every Muslim follows the evil parts of the Qu'ran, and not every Muslims hurts people. I judge each Muslim by his actions, not the actions of someone else.

And both books were written over a thousand years ago. Going by dates, they're both quite obsolete, aren't they? But no, the age of a book is not important to the believers. So why should the age of the Old Testament be iimportant?

I am aware that the New Testament is not so harsh as the Old, but the Old is still the word of God, is it not? That some Christians choose not to follow the Old Testament proves only that a follower of a religion need not follow all of the laws of that religion. A Christian might not follow the evil parts of the Bible, while a Muslim might not follow the evil parts of the Qu'ran.

I disagree. Neither Christians nor Muslims tend to call out the evil parts of their religion, unless they are pointing out a small minority of followers, who they can easily call Unchristian or Unmuslim.

Think about your own actions. Do you point out that the Old Testament is evil? Do you point out that the actions of Christian leaders in the Dark and Middle Ages were evil? Do you point out that the actions of those who worsen the lives of gay people are evil?

Maybe you do at least one of those, but if so, you are unlike most others I have met.

Well, this depends how far back in history you'd like to go. In the Middle Ages, Christians commit mass murder of people of different religions and atheists. They conducted inquisitions to find and kill these people. It was not pretty.

If you are talking about more recently, well I have no example of mass murder, but I can provide examples of individual murders if you like.

Despite these things, I do not call Christians evil. I call murderers evil. If a Christian is a murderer, he is evil. If he's a kind, generous person, he is not.

It appears to me that you are judging them by the actions of someone else: the actions of someone who has the same religion. Just because two people have the same religion does not mean that their actions are equivalent. Judge each person by his individual actions.

Do you know that there is a world war going on and that muslims started it?

Do you know that in Indonesia which has 220 million muslims that 10% believe in violence to further Islam? That is 22 million muslims who will kill you. That is hardly a few. That is in Indonesia alone.

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