Why Not Just Be-Head Them? - Page 3

alias · 11-30-2006, 10:52 PM

You don't believe in Jesus anyway so whatever you say about Jesus doesn't matter one little bit.

intangible child · 11-30-2006, 10:57 PM

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intangible child · 11-30-2006, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

You don't believe in Jesus anyway so whatever you say about Jesus doesn't matter one little bit.

Jesus was all right, but his disciples were thick and ordinary. It's them twisting it that ruins it for me.---John Lennon

You're just left with yourself all the time, whatever you do anyway. You've got to get down to your own God in your own temple. It's all down to you, mate.---John Lennon

I believe in God, but not as one thing, not as an old man in the sky. I believe that what people call God is something in all of us. I believe that what Jesus and Mohammed and Buddha and all the rest said was right. It's just that the translations have gone wrong.---John Lennon

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alias · 12-01-2006, 12:20 AM

God is a Concept by which
we measure our pain
I'll say it again
God is a Concept by which
we measure our pain
I don't believe in magic
I don't believe in I-ching
I don't believe in Bible
I don't believe in Tarot
I don't believe in Hitler
I don't believe in Jesus
I don't believe in Kennedy
I don't believe in Buddha
I don't believe in Mantra
I don't believe in Gita
I don't believe in Yoga
I don't believe in Kings
I don't believe in Elvis
I don't believe in Zimmerman
I don't believe in Beatles
I just believe in me...and that reality

The dream is over
What can I say?
the Dream is Over
Yesterday
I was the Dreamweaver
But now I'm reborn
I was the Walrus
But now I'm John
and so dear friends
you'll just have to carry on
The Dream is over

John Lennon

alias · 12-01-2006, 12:21 AM

Hey child, Do you know who Zimmerman is?

nuttyjoe · 12-01-2006, 03:45 AM

First of all, have any of you ever read the Koran? When some of you assume that all Muslims are terrorists, you perpetuate a sense of "ISLAMOPHOBIA"; which unfortunately has been in extreme since 9/11.
It is a historical fact that religions have spread from the tips of swords. We Christians are not above this - hasn't anyone heard of the CRUSADES?
Second of all, who are any of us to define religion to another? I was lucky- growing up I was taught that religion was and still is one of the pillars of civilization. I believe that the impotant thing is that one believes, not what brand he believes in. Man has fought over religion for all of recorded history; when is it going to stop? When are we going to learn to stop trying to force our beliefs upon eveyone else? Religion has been the reason for most animosity in the history of the world. If you believe in ARMAGEDDON,differences in religion will surely be the cause of it.

12-01-2006, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by nuttyjoe

First of all, have any of you ever read the Koran? When some of you assume that all Muslims are terrorists, you perpetuate a sense of "ISLAMOPHOBIA"; which unfortunately has been in extreme since 9/11.
It is a historical fact that religions have spread from the tips of swords. We Christians are not above this - hasn't anyone heard of the CRUSADES?
Second of all, who are any of us to define religion to another? I was lucky- growing up I was taught that religion was and still is one of the pillars of civilization. I believe that the impotant thing is that one believes, not what brand he believes in. Man has fought over religion for all of recorded history; when is it going to stop? When are we going to learn to stop trying to force our beliefs upon eveyone else? Religion has been the reason for most animosity in the history of the world. If you believe in ARMAGEDDON,differences in religion will surely be the cause of it.

Why do people always bring up the HISTORY of Christainity, when talking about the the terror of Islam TODAY. Besides, if not for the Crusades, we'd probably all be muslims right now. What do you mean by forcing our beliefs on others? You mean like wanting to stop people from flying planes in to buildings? Or trying to stop people from strapping bombs to there children, just to go kill other innocent children. Or lets say trying to stop violent protests, were people DIE, over a cartoon written in a far away land. Or maybe us trying to stop the murder of a man, just for converting from Islam? Or Us trying to stop the hanging of a mentaly retarted 16 year old girl, for having sex? Cause if these are the things your talking about, YOUR DAMN RIGHT were trying to force our beliefs.

BTW You should be carefull with the "all roads lead to Rome" Bull Shit. Someone might believe you, and you would be leading them astray.
Jesus said " I am the way the truth and the light, NO MAN can come to the father but BY ME."

12-01-2006, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaxian

I am not blind to the evil words contained in the Qu'ran, just as I am not blind to the evil actions of some Muslims. But I am also not blind to the fact that not every Muslim follows the evil parts of the Qu'ran, and not every Muslims hurts people. I judge each Muslim by his actions, not the actions of someone else.

No one said they all do. But I dont hear any of them trying to stop there brothers either.

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And both books were written over a thousand years ago. Going by dates, they're both quite obsolete, aren't they? But no, the age of a book is not important to the believers. So why should the age of the Old Testament be iimportant?

Age doesnt change truth. In fact truth endures, forever. Like Jesus said, "the heavens and the earth will pass away, but my word will never pass away"

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I am aware that the New Testament is not so harsh as the Old, but the Old is still the word of God, is it not? That some Christians choose not to follow the Old Testament proves only that a follower of a religion need not follow all of the laws of that religion. A Christian might not follow the evil parts of the Bible, while a Muslim might not follow the evil parts of the Qu'ran.

Yes, the old test is very much the word of God. In fact one could argue that many things in our headlines today represent old test prophecy yet fullfilled. If you want a really good understanding of our relationship with the old law, read Romans chapter 7. It will tell you all you need to know on the subject. But even in the old test, God has not commanded us to do evil.

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I disagree. Neither Christians nor Muslims tend to call out the evil parts of their religion, unless they are pointing out a small minority of followers, who they can easily call Unchristian or Unmuslim.

Thats just cause currently you really cant point the finger at christains for any real evil. As a christain group that is. The last thing was abortion clinic bombings (going on like 10 years ago). All churches condemed the bombings. Do you really think that if there were christains rioting in the streets, where people were being killed, over a cartoon, written by the dutch, that the churches would stay quiet? Or you think if Christains were straping bombs to there children, to kill other children, we'd stay quiet?

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Think about your own actions. Do you point out that the Old Testament is evil? Do you point out that the actions of Christian leaders in the Dark and Middle Ages were evil? Do you point out that the actions of those who worsen the lives of gay people are evil?

Maybe you do at least one of those, but if so, you are unlike most others I have met.

You are hardly qualified to say the old test is evil. You have very little understanding of it at all.

Yes there where those of the RCC that did evil things, no doubt. But its hardly justification of why muslims do what they do TODAY.

I know of no one who does anything to worsen the lives of gay people. In fact, if the bible is true (which I fully believe) it is the striaght defiance of "christain" gay people who will bring judgment to our country. Having a point of view that gays shouldnt marry, ist evil. When they start gay bashing again, (I mean with physical force) then I'll stand right next to you and condem it all day long.

12-01-2006, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaxian

I am not blind to the evil words contained in the Qu'ran, just as I am not blind to the evil actions of some Muslims. But I am also not blind to the fact that not every Muslim follows the evil parts of the Qu'ran, and not every Muslims hurts people. I judge each Muslim by his actions, not the actions of someone else.

No one said they all do. But I dont hear any of them trying to stop there brothers either.

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And both books were written over a thousand years ago. Going by dates, they're both quite obsolete, aren't they? But no, the age of a book is not important to the believers. So why should the age of the Old Testament be iimportant?

Age doesnt change truth. In fact truth endures, forever. Like Jesus said, "the heavens and the earth will pass away, but my word will never pass away"

Quote:

I am aware that the New Testament is not so harsh as the Old, but the Old is still the word of God, is it not? That some Christians choose not to follow the Old Testament proves only that a follower of a religion need not follow all of the laws of that religion. A Christian might not follow the evil parts of the Bible, while a Muslim might not follow the evil parts of the Qu'ran.

Yes, the old test is very much the word of God. In fact one could argue that many things in our headlines today represent old test prophecy yet fullfilled. If you want a really good understanding of our relationship with the old law, read Romans chapter 7. It will tell you all you need to know on the subject. But even in the old test, God has not commanded us to do evil.

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I disagree. Neither Christians nor Muslims tend to call out the evil parts of their religion, unless they are pointing out a small minority of followers, who they can easily call Unchristian or Unmuslim.

Thats just cause currently you really cant point the finger at christains for any real evil. As a christain group that is. The last thing was abortion clinic bombings (going on like 10 years ago). All churches condemed the bombings. Do you really think that if there were christains rioting in the streets, where people were being killed, over a cartoon, written by the dutch, that the churches would stay quiet? Or you think if Christains were straping bombs to there children, to kill other children, we'd stay quiet?

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Think about your own actions. Do you point out that the Old Testament is evil? Do you point out that the actions of Christian leaders in the Dark and Middle Ages were evil? Do you point out that the actions of those who worsen the lives of gay people are evil?

Maybe you do at least one of those, but if so, you are unlike most others I have met.

You are hardly qualified to say the old test is evil. You have very little understanding of it at all.

Yes there where those of the RCC that did evil things, no doubt. But its hardly justification of why muslims do what they do TODAY.

I know of no one who does anything to worsen the lives of gay people. In fact, if the bible is true (which I fully believe) it is the striaght defiance of "christain" gay people who will bring judgment to our country. Having a point of view that gays shouldnt marry, ist evil. When they start gay bashing again, (I mean with physical force) then I'll stand right next to you and condem it all day long.

nuttyjoe · 12-01-2006, 02:32 PM

Jay D- first of all; I'm glad to see that you can make the distinction between the actions(extreme) of some people who call themselves Muslims and real Muslims. Yes; Muslims have killed in the defense of their faith. Whether we choose to believe this or not; we Christians have also indulged in this. The terrorism you see and hear about today is being done by radical extremists who just use the name of Islam as a justification for this behavior- we all know that there is and can be no justification. By the Hammurabi Code which embraces Islam today; be-headings will follow and rightfully so. Their actions are not in defense of Islam; by the Koran, this is the definition of murder- which the Koran decries in all forms.

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