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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 12-03-2006, 07:57 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Okay, then don't in the next breath say that we have to take everything else in the old testament (hint hint, creationism and the old testament) for their word. Jeeze, the stench of pure stupidity and arrogance coming from you two can be so repugnant sometimes.
Telling you the truth is not arrogance. You are just having a hard time admitting you are ignorant of certain things. Anyone with a little knowledge of the bible and Christianity can readily see where the arrogance is around here.
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:00 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Yeah, that's quite a comeback.
Again, this is the root of your malfunction. Debating isn't supposed to be about insults and "comebacks". Its about discussion.

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Why not just say, "Yep, I got my butt handed to me in a basket again."?
Because I still disagree with you, and it's very apparent that you're completely wrong. But your blinding bias wont allow you to see things clearly, like the logic behind any criticism of your religion. It's therefore pointless continuing with you. But go ahead and continue beating your chest. But play your penis game with someone else, I really don't care about your masculinity. All that testosterone is making you stupid. Same thing goes with your response in the thread with eddier. I presented a direct hypocrisy of yours and alias', and you know it, so what do you do in defense? *wha* at least my penis is bigger! *wha* *beats chest, eats banana*
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Old 12-03-2006, 08:11 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Again, this is the root of your malfunction. Debating isn't supposed to be about insults and "comebacks". Its about discussion.



Because I still disagree with you, and it's very apparent that you're completely wrong. But your blinding bias wont allow you to see things clearly, like the logic behind any criticism of your religion. It's therefore pointless continuing with you. But go ahead and continue beating your chest. But play your penis game with someone else, I really don't care about your masculinity. All that testosterone is making you stupid. Same thing goes with your response in the thread with eddier. I presented a direct hypocrisy of yours and alias', and you know it, so what do you do in defense? *wha* at least my penis is bigger! *wha* *beats chest, eats banana*
You haven't done anything. You're ignorant of the bible and you're ignorant of Christianity and you're ignorant of Islam. You are the one who is arrogant because you think you know everything. Studying religions is one of my hobbies and has been for years.

It would kinda be like me arguing about auto Mechanics with Mr. Goodwrench when in fact all I know about cars is how to change a tire and charge the battery and put in gas. That'd be kinda stupid and arrogant of me wouldn't it.
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Because I still disagree with you, and it's very apparent that you're completely wrong. But your blinding bias wont allow you to see things clearly, like the logic behind any criticism of your religion. It's therefore pointless continuing with you. But go ahead and continue beating your chest. But play your penis game with someone else, I really don't care about your masculinity. All that testosterone is making you stupid. Same thing goes with your response in the thread with eddier.
Okay genius, in what way - exactly - am I "completely wrong"?

And what - exactly - is "my religion"? The fact that I'm knowledgable in Christianity, Islam, and a whole host of other religions, does NOT automatically make me one thing or another... But the fact is this: You are stupid and ignorant about the Bible. Period. You have not one clue what it says. You prove that every time you post something

Just because my responses don't square with the pussy liberal indoctrination you're receiving in college does NOT mean anything other than that you've never seen "the other side" of anything.

You have become very B O R I N G.
Old 12-04-2006, 06:51 AM   #75 (permalink)
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NOW FOR THE 3rd TIME, LETS ALL READ ROMANS 7

Katc- THIS IS FOR YOU. PLEASE READ AND RESPOND


Romans 7



1Do you not know, brothers—for I am speaking to men who know the law—that the law has authority over a man only as long as he lives? 2For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage. 3So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress, even though she marries another man.

4So, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God. 5For when we were controlled by the sinful nature,[a] the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, so that we bore fruit for death. 6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code.
Old 12-04-2006, 02:45 PM   #76 (permalink)
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If you want to truly be truthful, let's say it like it was. It was NOT Christians who committed those acts in The Middle Ages. It was a church that claimed to be Christian that did that. That "church" was stripped of it's power when Martin Luther posted his thesis on the door of the church and the Reformaton began.

Read your history with an open mind. A true Christian follows the teachings of Christ. Can you really say the Roman Catholic Church followed the teachings of Christ? I think not. How many people do you know who attend Christian churches and don't DO what Christ said to do? Are they really Christians...just because they say they are?
If the people who committed those acts in the Middle Ages were alive today, they would state that it is you who is not Christian. So who am I to believe? Do I believe you, simply because you're alive while they are dead?

The truth is that there are different interpretations of the Bible. A Christian of the Middle Ages might say that Jesus was a Jew, and he claimed that he came to abolish no law. Therefore, the laws of Deuteronomy still stand true and must be obeyed.

Is he right? Maybe; maybe not. It's a matter of interpretation and opinion.

The people of the Middle Ages followed what they believed Christ wanted, just as you follow what you believe he wanted. That makes you both Christians. But two Christians do not necessarily believe the same things. And that's what we need to understand.

Muslims too have different interpretations of the Qu'ran. Those Muslims who are kind and caring deserve to be treated as kind, caring people. Those Muslims who are coldhearted murderers should be treated as such. The same can be said of Christians, Atheists, Buddhists, and followers of any other religion. It isn't your religious affiliation which determines your morality: it is your actions.
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Old 12-04-2006, 05:37 PM   #77 (permalink)
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The people of the Middle Ages followed what they believed Christ wanted, just as you follow what you believe he wanted. That makes you both Christians. But two Christians do not necessarily believe the same things. And that's what we need to understand.

Muslims too have different interpretations of the Qu'ran. Those Muslims who are kind and caring deserve to be treated as kind, caring people. Those Muslims who are coldhearted murderers should be treated as such. The same can be said of Christians, Atheists, Buddhists, and followers of any other religion. It isn't your religious affiliation which determines your morality: it is your actions.
Exactly - and that is what the problem with the Muslims is. Yes, there are those who are peaceful people, despite their worship of Muhammad. But the ACTIONS of the Muslim terrorists are the problem. Yes, it's their ACTIONS.
Old 12-04-2006, 05:43 PM   #78 (permalink)
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If the people who committed those acts in the Middle Ages were alive today, they would state that it is you who is not Christian. So who am I to believe? Do I believe you, simply because you're alive while they are dead?

The truth is that there are different interpretations of the Bible. A Christian of the Middle Ages might say that Jesus was a Jew, and he claimed that he came to abolish no law. Therefore, the laws of Deuteronomy still stand true and must be obeyed.

Is he right? Maybe; maybe not. It's a matter of interpretation and opinion.

The people of the Middle Ages followed what they believed Christ wanted, just as you follow what you believe he wanted. That makes you both Christians. But two Christians do not necessarily believe the same things. And that's what we need to understand.

Muslims too have different interpretations of the Qu'ran. Those Muslims who are kind and caring deserve to be treated as kind, caring people. Those Muslims who are coldhearted murderers should be treated as such. The same can be said of Christians, Atheists, Buddhists, and followers of any other religion. It isn't your religious affiliation which determines your morality: it is your actions.

Thats a cop out Jax. The teachings of Jesus are very clear, for all to see. It is what it is, which is one reason everyone hates on him, cause there leaves little room for doubt of where he stands.

My only question regarding muslims is, why then do we not see the "good muslims" speaking out against the "bad muslims". We see Christians speak out against black sheep all the time.
Old 12-04-2006, 05:48 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Thats a cop out Jax. The teachings of Jesus are very clear, for all to see. It is what it is, which is one reason everyone hates on him, cause there leaves little room for doubt of where he stands.

My only question regarding muslims is, why then do we not see the "good muslims" speaking out against the "bad muslims". We see Christians speak out against black sheep all the time.
That the same problem I have with the "good" muslims, if such a small percentage of them are the "bearded crazies" why are they the only ones we ever hear from?
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That the same problem I have with the "good" muslims, if such a small percentage of them are the "bearded crazies" why are they the only ones we ever hear from?
And there we have it.

The problems with the Muslim terrorists will only be handled by other Muslims. Unfortunately, it is obvious that they don't really seem to want the terrorism to stop.

Again, actions speak louder than words.
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