Originally Posted by onthefence

That the same problem I have with the "good" muslims, if such a small percentage of them are the "bearded crazies" why are they the only ones we ever hear from?

Originally Posted by JayD

Get into a conversation with your local muslim. If you push the right buttons, you'l clearly see there hate for everything that isnt Islam. Religion of peace my ass.

Originally Posted by onthefence

That the same problem I have with the "good" muslims, if such a small percentage of them are the "bearded crazies" why are they the only ones we ever hear from?

Originally Posted by alias

We had a muslim on here for a while. He said he was against violence. He then went on the condemn Israel. They talk out of both sides of their mouth.

Originally Posted by chrisg967

In my opinion, simply condemning something is a non-violent action. For what did s/he condemn Israel?

It's difficult to tell what any of us posting here do once we get up from our computers.

Originally Posted by alias

We had a muslim on here for a while. He said he was against violence. He then went on the condemn Israel. They talk out of both sides of their mouth.

Originally Posted by JayD

Thats a cop out Jax. The teachings of Jesus are very clear, for all to see. It is what it is, which is one reason everyone hates on him, cause there leaves little room for doubt of where he stands.

Originally Posted by Jaxian

What do you mean it's a cop out? Virtually every Christian alive in the Middle Ages believed what I'm saying. The command to murder people is readily available in every Bible on the shelves. Truthfully, I don't fully understand why Christians have discarded Deuteronomy, unless they simply decided that they don't want to follow those laws anymore."

Those people were under the rule of the Roman Catholic Church. NOT the teachings of Jesus Christ.

FOR THE 4TH TIME IN THIS THREAD


Romans 7



"1Do you not know, brothers—for I am speaking to men who know the law—that the law has authority over a man only as long as he lives? 2For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law of marriage. 3So then, if she marries another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress, even though she marries another man.

4So, my brothers, you also died to the law through the body of Christ, that you might belong to another, to him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit to God. 5For when we were controlled by the sinful nature,[a] the sinful passions aroused by the law were at work in our bodies, so that we bore fruit for death. 6But now, by dying to what once bound us, we have been released from the law so that we serve in the new way of the Spirit, and not in the old way of the written code."




But I always see Muslims speaking out against violence. Maybe it's becuse I went to college in Dearborn, MI, where there is a large population of Muslims. Maybe it's because I talk to a lot of Muslims on debate forums. But everywhere I go, Muslims seem to be condemning violence. We even had a Muslim on these forums who condemned the violent actions of terrorists and said Islam is a religion of peace.

Your just not pushing the right buttons. Ive been good friends with this muslim guy named Nas on this other MB for a couple years now. He talks about peace, and all that jaz, right till you bring up Israel, or anything to do with America being in the ME. Then he turns into Nazi Nas. Even our Muslim friend 2 posts up is showing clear signs of muslim hatred. WTF does he mean he wont call suicide bombers, terrorist? People who diliberatly throw rockets at civilain sites EVERYDAY are not terrorists?


Okay, so not every Muslim shares these beliefs. I'm not denying that. Maybe my experience with Muslims isn't representative of the Muslim population as a whole. But you've got to admit that peaceful Muslims are out there. Even if 99.999% of Muslims believed in violence, you'd have no business condemning the .001% who do not.

Fair enough. I personaly believe muhammad was under direct influance of the devil. Like the pope quoted " what has muhammad brought that was new? All you see from him is death and inhumanity.

So its clear to me, anyone who truly wishes to learn and follow muhammad, will want to take the paths he himself took.



Do you understand what I'm saying? Holding a certain religion is not the same thing as commiting a violent act. Hate an evil action, or hate one person's evil beliefs. But you can't just lump all Muslims into one category as though they're all the same person. You've got to judge each person individually.

The core beliefs of Islam are evil, and violent. One could argue (by the teachings of muhammad) that if your not envolved violence, your not a real muslim.