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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 12-08-2006, 12:00 PM   #81 (permalink)
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What they muslims are doing is silencing criticism of anything they do by pointing the bigot finger and using freedom of religion in our country to silence the critics. They learned that from liberals. It's as plain as the wart of foundit's nose.

We are being conditioned to keep silent and not speak up at dhimitude.

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Old 12-08-2006, 12:02 PM   #82 (permalink)
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The simple fact of this matter is that Muslims know that they must say prayer five times each day. Morning, early afternoon, late afternoon, sun-set and night prayers in which they must face to Mecca and perform the ritualistic prayers as required by their faith. I have no problem with them doing this, however, the problem does arise when they do this in public places. During the prayer there are many ritualistic motions they must perform, including kneeling prostate in submission to Allah.

Sorry folks but in a public place this can cause problems. It is that simple. I am sorry but people have the right to walk in and out of locker rooms without having to be obstructed. People have the right to walk through Airports without being obstructed or submitted to hearing others pray.
And all of this is speculation.
Of course they should find some spot where they won't intrude on others. Nobody is saying otherwise.
But in this case, we don't know if that was the issue.

One of the news articles I looked at even called the place where they worshipped a "closet". It is unknown


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For all those who time and again attack Christianity on this forum where is your outrage over this??? Oh that's right, its not Christianity that is involved in this religious dispute so its okay. HYPOCRITS!!!!!!!!
Sarge, review the context of the comments, and then get back to me with a REAL comment.
My comments are satirical demonstrating the religious intolerance of SOME who claim Christianity, who demand certain things for Christianity yet point to others asking for certain things for Muslim as something that should be held against them.

If you have a specific comment to make regarding a specific statement, then make it. Otherwise, you're missing the point.


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Common sense should apply. If you know you have to pray five times a day, I can understand the need for space at work, however, working out in a gym is an optional choice on your part. If your workout time interferes with your prayer time, perhaps you need to change your prayer time.
At times I find this whole conversation just so ridiculously mundane.
Often, the gym can have MORE ROOM for this than even a work space.

You say that working out in a gym is an "optional choice", which is true.
But by the same token, the option to have prayer there IS THEIR OPTION. Those religious right pundits who have been tossing crap around about how they shouldn't be praying there because it's a gym are showing INCREDIBLE religious INtolerance.

IF they can pray WITHOUT inconveniencing others in a significant way, then what's the problem?
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:11 PM   #83 (permalink)
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What they muslims are doing is silencing criticism of anything they do by pointing the bigot finger and using freedom of religion in our country to silence the critics.
And of course, since NOBODY in this country has ANY bigotry towards Muslims, they are obviously always inaccurate...
< end sarcasm >


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We are being conditioned to keep silent and not speak up at dhimitude.
I see. So when Sarge complains about other's comments about Christianity, that would be CHRISTIAN Dhimitude, right?
Or when you claim that people are bigotted against Christians, that would be YOU displaying Dhimitude.

Did the muslims learn this from the Christians then?
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Old 12-08-2006, 12:30 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Notice how the resident muslims and his water carrier foundit both dance around the issue and resort to insults. I'll take that as "I don't have a clue, but if I did, Alias is still wrong".
How about you provide REAL PROOF of your accusations instead of just playing the stereo-type game where she is Muslims, other Muslims have done X, so she must be guilty of it too...

All the crap you have quoted involves WEB-SITE PUNDITS taking a LEGITIMATE news article, and claiming it says things which WERE NEVER PRESENT in the article itself.
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Hmm.. I can't believe there is still debate going on when the details of the situation are not known.
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Hmm.. I can't believe there is still debate going on when the details of the situation are not known.
Really?

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And all of this is speculation.
Of course they should find some spot where they won't intrude on others. Nobody is saying otherwise.
But in this case, we don't know if that was the issue.

One of the news articles I looked at even called the place where they worshipped a "closet". It is unknown



Sarge, review the context of the comments, and then get back to me with a REAL comment.
My comments are satirical demonstrating the religious intolerance of SOME who claim Christianity, who demand certain things for Christianity yet point to others asking for certain things for Muslim as something that should be held against them.

If you have a specific comment to make regarding a specific statement, then make it. Otherwise, you're missing the point.



At times I find this whole conversation just so ridiculously mundane.
Often, the gym can have MORE ROOM for this than even a work space.

You say that working out in a gym is an "optional choice", which is true.
But by the same token, the option to have prayer there IS THEIR OPTION. Those religious right pundits who have been tossing crap around about how they shouldn't be praying there because it's a gym are showing INCREDIBLE religious INtolerance.

IF they can pray WITHOUT inconveniencing others in a significant way, then what's the problem?
No it is not speculation. Sarge is only doing the same thing I am doing. He sees the pattern that the muslims have used for centuries being applied everywhere. You can't see it because of your political correctness.
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How about you provide REAL PROOF of your accusations instead of just playing the stereo-type game where she is Muslims, other Muslims have done X, so she must be guilty of it too...

All the crap you have quoted involves WEB-SITE PUNDITS taking a LEGITIMATE news article, and claiming it says things which WERE NEVER PRESENT in the article itself.
Yeah, we just pulled this out of the blue. Yeah, we just thought we'd attack muslims because we're bored.

The fact is we are using patterned behavior the muslims have demonstrated for centuries and are applying now world wide for our evidence. Only those ignorant of dhimitude cannot see it.
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Really?

I can...
LOL.. you're right... human nature being what it is...
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No it is not speculation. Sarge is only doing the same thing I am doing. He sees the pattern that the muslims have used for centuries being applied everywhere. You can't see it because of your political correctness.
Yes. It IS speculation.
Anybody can see a pattern about SOME people in a group that are doing something. Racists see patterns in blacks that show they have higher rates of violent crime. And in reality, blacks DO have a higher rate of violent crime.

But to presume that any INDIVIDUAL black must be guilty because of something seen in the whole group of blacks is racist.

To presume that this INDIVIDUAL muslim must be guilty of what you are talking about is ALSO racist.

It has nothing to do with "political correctness". I AGREED that the whole "airport imam" thing was just plain wrong and fishy.
But to jump from that to assuming that any conflict must be the fault of the muslim is wrong.

The concept I am invoking is "innocent until proven guilty", and evidently you haven't heard of that where muslims are involved...
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