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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 12-10-2006, 09:27 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Some complain that there isn't enough reaction to terrorism by moderate Muslims, yet fail to point it out when it is there. Perhaps they need to shout and get red in the face?
Yes, they do!

Until the moderate/liberal/peaceful Muslims start stepping out and putting a stop to this crap, it won't end.
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Old 12-10-2006, 09:36 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Some complain that there isn't enough reaction to terrorism by moderate Muslims, yet fail to point it out when it is there. Perhaps they need to shout and get red in the face?


Well Im for one am glad he spoke out against it. On the other hand, I doubt, if he did support him, that he would be open about it.
Old 12-10-2006, 11:09 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Yes, they do!

Until the moderate/liberal/peaceful Muslims start stepping out and putting a stop to this crap, it won't end.
What, you want them to become more forceful in their condemnations?
What do you expect/want them to do, exactly?
Stepping out and putting a stop to this crap, when they don't even know the man (in this case) and likely only learned of it when the authorities asked if they knew him - HOW would you suggest they respond?
Old 12-10-2006, 12:13 PM   #14 (permalink)
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What, you want them to become more forceful in their condemnations?
What do you expect/want them to do, exactly?
Stepping out and putting a stop to this crap, when they don't even know the man (in this case) and likely only learned of it when the authorities asked if they knew him - HOW would you suggest they respond?


I want them ALL (over a billion) to stand in unison, with a loud voice, and say, THESE TERRORIST DO NOT REPRESENT MY FAITH. Regardless if its against this man they claim not to know, or Osama himself. They say only 19 guys highjacked those planes, and we cant blame it on the crowd. Yet when it happened they were dancing in the streets THANKING GOD, that it happened, by the thousands. All while burning our flag, and chanting death to our children. Our mothers, our fathers, all of us. Yet you want to point the finger at me and call me the bad guy. Pull the wool from your eyes my friend.
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You have to understand Islam and the culture of Islam. In Islam, it is good to lie to further Islam. That's all that matters, the furterance of Islam. If you need to lie to do that, Mohammed says fine and dandy.

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I want them ALL (over a billion) to stand in unison, with a loud voice, and say, THESE TERRORIST DO NOT REPRESENT MY FAITH. Regardless if its against this man they claim not to know, or Osama himself. They say only 19 guys highjacked those planes, and we cant blame it on the crowd. Yet when it happened they were dancing in the streets THANKING GOD, that it happened, by the thousands. All while burning our flag, and chanting death to our children. Our mothers, our fathers, all of us. Yet you want to point the finger at me and call me the bad guy. Pull the wool from your eyes my friend.
Sounds like you want an organized global protest that is visible rather than condemnation statements, some of which are listed in this article by Jeffrey Weiss. Is this realistic?

Jay, I am not pointing the finger at you and calling you the bad guy. Or anyone else. If it appears that way, I apologize, as I did not intend to come across that way.
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I think that saying things like there are only a few terrorists compared to all Muslims is missing the point and dismissing the real issue. It will not go away by accepting it as being from a minority of people and therefore not a real threat to civilization. It is a threat to civilization if only from a relative few. If you hundreds of thousands who are millitant and a billion who will stand by, the militants are in control. It only takes one nut with a really big bomb to murder millions. One of em sits on the throne in Iran.

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There are some more condemnation statements collected on this website, with links to yet more statements websites at the bottom. I guess these aren't loud enough.
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I want to hear them condemn the regimes in Syria and Iran. I want to hear them condemn Hezbollah and Hamas.
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There are some more condemnation statements collected on this website, with links to yet more statements websites at the bottom. I guess these aren't loud enough.


No there not. If they rose up like they do over a couple stupit cartoons, written in a land far away, then it would CERTAINLY be found news worthy.
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