Well alias, I'm not going to be losing sleep over the fact we have legalized abortion or that convicted murderers face capital punishment in this country, but fanatical religious terrorism is still terrorism whether people are blowing up abortion clinics or malls.

I agree. They are both terrorism. I do not agree they are morally equivalent.

Oh sheesh.. Just because a terrorist activity is in SUPPORT of your ideology, it is suddenly less morally reprehensible than a terrorist who thinks his people will be given their rights?

That is incredible.. seriously dude.. VIolence is violence.. end of story. Now you claim that the REASON for violence makes a difference to how immoral the act is?

So bombing the fuck out of a few doctors and single moms/prostitues/rapevictims/WHATEVER is NOT as bad as bombing a public place because your family is dying of repression and hunger due to US policies?

That's just sad dude.. Terrorism is terrorism and it is AS deplorable ( or excusable) REGARDLESS. I mean you don't care WHY a muslim terrorist blew himself up do you. You just know he is muslims and hence his actions are THE MOST IMMORAL by DEFAULT.

If an anti abortionist has a "reason".. well then so does a palestinian suicide bomber.. Only you agree with the anti-abortionists, so HE is just a poor misguided soul, whereas the palestinian is EVIL.

Disgusting

I do not in any way, shape or form support the stupidity of blowing up an abortion clinic. Ever. Period. In fact, if I knew somebody was planning to do that, I'd personally kick the crap out of them.

That being said, however, I believe we all need to be honest about a few things:

1. Blowing up an empty abortion clinic so that they "can't do business" tomorrow is a FAR CRY from driving an explosives-laden car into a busy market in order to kill as many innocent civilians as possible.

2. Though still wrong - period, even killing an abortion doctor is not, in its purest sense, killing an innocent person. That doctor is "the enemy" in the eyes of the fanatical anti-abortionist. In that sense, it'd be like suicide bombers targetting ONLY enemy soldiers. Again, don't go balistic. I'm NOT saying it's okay.

3. The sheer number of "abortion clinic" bombings compared to the number of Muslim Suicide Bombings is miniscule.

Not many seem to care about the why of the actions. Plus our government has said we will not negotiate, which effectively cuts off communication. How do we further our understanding unless we hear them, using active listening?

I read somewhere that any action that is not a loving action is a cry for love. If that is true, then suicide bombers are screaming for love, and we fail to listen.

LOL, no it's not a cry for love.

A suicide bomber blows himself up for Allah and martyrdom. That's why. He has been brainwashed and is just acting out what he's been indoctrinated with.

To excuse it as most muslims do does not help their cause one bit. Our resident muslim has to say self defense is just as bad to try keep his religion from being perceived as violent when in fact it is. The quran is a very violent book and the founder of this murdering cult was a war monger who slaughtered people wherever he went to force submission to his cult.

1. This might be true if the abortion clinics were always empty. I do not believe this to be the case.

2. If the doctor is "the enemy" in their minds, they are thinking wrong, for the doctors did not legalize abortion. The true "enemy" would be the government, or perhaps the people, since we have a government of the people, by the people, for the people.

Further, we do not know who the individual suicide bombers consider to be "the enemy". It could be anyone who doesn't think like they do, meaning anyone not in their group. They also are thinking wrong.

In my opinion, human beings do not have enough practice creating and maintaining friendships. We have not evolved past using violence to settle our conflicts, whether they be between husband and wife, family groups, groups of students in the schoolyard, street gangs, communities, states, or nations. Therefore, we are not yet civilized.

3. You are talking about magnitude. It is still killing, no matter if it's one or thousands.

If there were abortion clinics being blown up every day I could see your point. This is like comparing a pimple to a volcano.

1. Sure, that's what we've been told.

2. How does the person get to that head-space in the first place? Why is s/he susceptible to recruitment? What is going on in his/her life to make him/her think this is the right thing to do?

3. I do not believe moderate muslims excuse it, far from it, they condemn it - but perhaps we do not listen. And the perception of Islam as being a violent cult is just that, a perception. If this were true, then ALL Muslims would be violent, and they are not.

Okay. Let's take the first one. I claim a muslim blows himself up because he has been indoctrinated and believes he will be a martyr. You claim that is what we have been told. What is your belief?