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I think that the force and reward that drives all war and terrorist activities is the "doctrine of manifest destiny"...

Every group wanting to spread it's influence and enlarge it's territory. And somehow, the gains that are made here on earth are carried as a spiritual security in part, as if to say, "God is on {our} side."

So partly I think war and terror reign from a fear that is attempting to be assauged by material and substantial victories here on earth.

And in the largest way, this strategy appeals to the greed and approbation of man.

There are many who do make of themselves martyrs, and that for a hereafter reward, but more so, and this is only my perception, for the gains to a cause they believe in. And with the thought that any gain that can be made by their contribution must mean that they are right. Even if they die, they figure they die right.

And besides that, they are under the influence of evil leaders who in their greed and control, seek the material wealth and title that is gained by an army or terror-bandits. And they chapter and verse a holy book to justify their actions and proclaim their entitlement. Here and now, let alone in eternity.

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Old 12-16-2006, 10:14 AM   #42 (permalink)
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So you are saying/assuming there are no secular reasons for someone to join a terrorist group...

No. But there taught this none the less.
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Tsunami survivors given the lash
Michael Sheridan and Dewi Loveard, Banda Aceh

Disaster donations help Islamic vigilante force impose punishments on women

WHEN people around the world sent millions of pounds to help the stricken Indonesian province of Aceh after the Boxing Day tsunami of 2004, few could have imagined that their money would end up subsidising the lashing of women in public.
But militant Islamists have since imposed sharia law in Aceh and have cornered Indonesian government funds to organise a moral vigilante force that harasses women and stages frequent displays of humiliation and state-sanctioned violence.

International aid workers and Indonesian women’s organisations are now expressing dismay that the flow of foreign cash for reconstruction has allowed the government to spend scarce money on a new bureaucracy and religious police to enforce puritan laws, such as the compulsory wearing of headscarves.

Some say there are more “sharia police” than regular police on the local government payroll and that many of them are aggressive young men.

“Who are these sharia police?” demanded Nurjannah Ismail, a lecturer at Aceh’s Ar-Raniri University. “They are men who, most of the time, are trying to send the message that their position is higher than women.”

In one town, Lhokseumawe, the authorities are even planning to impose a curfew on women — a move that social workers warn will force tsunami widows to quit night-time jobs as food sellers or waitresses and could drive them into prostitution.

None of that daunts the enthusiasts for sharia, who gather in droves whenever there is an opportunity to glory in its enforcement.

The scene is always the same, and it has been enacted at least 140 times in squares and market places in front of mosques, from the towering minarets of Banda Aceh, the provincial capital, to humble village places of worship.

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Liberals, please tell me again about the small minority of muslims who are violent. I need some more liberal politically correct indoctrination after I saw this video:

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