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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 12-20-2006, 09:04 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I think we're doing okay. I don't worry about it. I have all my faith in Jesus.


Yes, "we're" doing okay...now what about the whole wide world, every man, woman and child?



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Old 12-20-2006, 09:17 PM   #12 (permalink)
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In all honesty JayD, I have seen a number of dispensationalists get all lit with the current events.

And with a gleam in their eye, nearly rub their hands back and forth in eager glee, at yet another "sign" of the end times...

Signs like ravaging natural disasters of tsunamis, earthquakes and hurricanes.

Signs like ravaging diseases like AIDS

Signs like wars and rumors of war.

There is, you must know, a fringe of rapture-maniacs that seem oblivious to the pain, the anguish, the destruction others face while they excitedly count that suffering to be one more confirmation that they will soon have a ticket to ride!

Those people look for those signs, cause those are also apart of prophecy. But there normaly the ones who donate the most money to those types of things. Its not that they want bad things to happen. Its that they believe in what the bible says. I look at it like, there is so much suffering, so much pain in the world. People starving, hundreds and thousands of missing children, that are going through God knows what If there still alive. Its so bad, Im going to just stop describing it.

You cant blame people for being exited about the rapture. Were told to comfort one another about the event. And its not like we didnt try to tell everyone to jump on board.




It seems an irresponsibility toward the planet and toward others sets in with that particular doctrine. And I am not saying everyone at all that believes that way, but enough. They give end times bad press.

Plus, this is what I think. If there really is a rapture, and if there really is an end time, and if it really is soon... And if we believe all of that, then why not completely disarm and speak the gospel love of Jesus instead of fighting to preserve freedom at all?


YES! Thats exactly what Im saying. I feel like we must drop EVERYTHING and just focus on him. Seek him with all you have. Read the scriptures, and shine the light. Its my prayer that everyone do this. But the path is already paved, and Im afraid I have little control over the masses




Why not demonstrate the freedom in our hearts now since this is our last chance to really live by faith.

We won't need freedom when we are dancing on the clouds with Jesus. And we won't need faith then either.

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Short answer: No.
Long Answer: War, disease, filth, and hunger are realities of life. They've been much more prevalent in earlier years than now. Remember, smallpox, the bubonic plague, malaria, and tuberculosis claimed many more lives than AIDS, and as hyped up as they are, SARS and bird flu are not going to pose any more of a threat as swine flu.

War has always been present. It's not that we've changed, it's that technology has become more advanced, a mixed blessing at best because with better medicine and food there has come deadlier weapons and better strategy.

As for omens? If you believe in ancient prophecies now then you might as well do what other Romans did, things like studying animal entrails which proved to predict some things, but not others. Every religion has its apoccalypse. What makes christianity so special?
Old 01-03-2007, 08:28 AM   #14 (permalink)
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"What makes christianity so special?"


The bibles insanly accurate view of the times we are in. Its cool that you dont believe in the bible, but you should find out what your talking about. Then next time you can bring something to the table.
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THE APOCALYPSE; WHEN WRITTEN, AND BY WHOM.
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The Dating of the Book of Revelation

Just who were the real authors of the Bible? Quotes of Bible Corruption from NIV Bible Commentary.
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The ancient Greeks used to say, "You shall know a man by the friends that he keeps." Given the nature of their friends and advisers, what are we to conclude about the Republican party:
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Seek and ye shall find the truth.

THE APOCALYPSE; WHEN WRITTEN, AND BY WHOM.
(1871)

by
Enoch Pond,
Professor at the Theological Seminary, Bangor, Maine.
Enoch Pond

The Dating of the Book of Revelation

Just who were the real authors of the Bible? Quotes of Bible Corruption from NIV Bible Commentary.
Wow, Ive never seen a better example of the times we live in, pertaining to scripture than this site. Between this and your oneness websites, your practicaly making my argument for me.



2 Timothy 4:3
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead, to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers to say what their itching ears want to hear.
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The bible and God have no concrete connection to anything divine. This is why faith is still required in the first place and not something more meaningful like truth or knowledge.

God is a theory, an opinion, an idea. Past this there is no truth.

It is because of this truth that I believe that the more one lies in regards to knowledge about God the more the world is farther from truth & peace and closer to chaos & dishonesty.
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There is little doubt that the world in general is more liberal than it was 50 years ago and beyond. Conservatives are simply roadblocks on the path to an ever more progressive and liberal world. What a sad existence.
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God is a theory, an opinion, an idea. Past this there is no truth.

It is because of this truth that I believe that the more one lies in regards to knowledge about God the more the world is farther from truth & peace and closer to chaos & dishonesty.


I humbly disagree with you Hevusa....a dog cannot see colors. That does not mean that colors are untrue, and if a dog could dare to dream of, opine that, or believe for colors, that dog would not be lying. You know it and so do I, because we already see colors.

But so many dogs would perhaps call that one believer a crazy dog.

Not all truths are obvious, not all truths can be weighed or measured. And many truths have yet to be revealed, yet to be embraced.

But they are truths just the same.

Out of interest, though Hevusa, what is your grave foundation for determining what is truth?

OD
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I humbly disagree with you Hevusa....a dog cannot see colors. That does not mean that colors are untrue, and if a dog could dare to dream of, opine that, or believe for colors, that dog would not be lying. You know it and so do I, because we already see colors.

But so many dogs would perhaps call that one believer a crazy dog.

Not all truths are obvious, not all truths can be weighed or measured. And many truths have yet to be revealed, yet to be embraced.

But they are truths just the same.

Out of interest, though Hevusa, what is your grave foundation for determining what is truth?

OD
If a Dog claimed that color was true even though he had no basis for it to be true past opinion, fantasy/dream or idea... yes, he would be a liar. It doesn't mean that color doesn't exist... just as God could exist. It just means to be honest he has to say "I don't know".

I could conceive of the "flying spaghetti monster". Does this mean it exists??? I don't know.
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Sometimes we know more than what we have learned, and speak from that basis of knowledge...It is intuition. Not a lie.

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