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Religion What is your take on religion? Do you base your thoughts in life according to your religion? Do you feel that religion should be kept out of Government and Politics?

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Old 01-02-2007, 08:08 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Who crucified Jesus, you idiot? The Christians?


Are you REALLY suggesting that Christianity was not born of Jesus' crucifixion?!

Or, did you think that crucifixions were not blood nor violent?

Who suggested the Christians crucified Jesus? Certainly not me! There were Jews who followed Jesus' teachings and became Christians when he was crucified...or, in other words, born of blood.

Are you serious with all this dodging and twisting? Is it supposed to further your debate? Is it supposed to be funny? I don't get it. It's just dumb
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I'd say something about the Qu'ran mentioning that "Allah loves not the aggressor," that holy wars occur with every major religion, and that the Bible advocates stoning as a valid punishment for adulterers, but I have the feeling it would fall on deaf ears.
We are not living in the old testament. We are living in the New Testament and the Quran which says to chop the head off the unbeliever. The quran says to kill the Christian and the Jew.

Show us in the New Testament where it says to kill the unbeliever. Christians are not living under the old testament. Jesus mad a New Testament. Show us. We know who has the deaf ears.
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Are you REALLY suggesting that Christianity was not born of Jesus' crucifixion?!

Or, did you think that crucifixions were not blood nor violent?

Who suggested the Christians crucified Jesus? Certainly not me! There were Jews who followed Jesus' teachings and became Christians when he was crucified...or, in other words, born of blood.

Are you serious with all this dodging and twisting? Is it supposed to further your debate? Is it supposed to be funny? I don't get it. It's just dumb
Finally a word of truth from you.

Tristanrobin: "I don't get it".

When the Jews became Christians, they did not stop being Jews. Being a Jew is more than a religion.
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Christians are not living under the old testament. Jesus mad a New Testament.
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THEN WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS SPEWING OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE IN PEOPLE'S FACES????????
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THEN WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS SPEWING OLD TESTAMENT SCRIPTURE IN PEOPLE'S FACES????????
I spewed one old testament scripture in your face about homosexuality(Leviticus). I spewed Two new testament scriptures in your face condemning homosexuality( Romans 1 and 1 Corinthians 6. You really are not too bright are you?
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I spewed one old testament scripture in your face
WHY? If Christians do not live by those laws, why are you using them in your argument? Just dishonest in general?
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WHY? If Christians do not live by those laws, why are you using them in your argument? Just dishonest in general?
Romans 1 and 1 Corinthians 6 are Christian scriptures. They say you are a reprobate.
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Romans 1 and 1 Corinthians 6 are Christian scriptures. They say you are a reprobate.
What are you? Do you follow God's laws?

James 4:11
Brothers, do not slander one another. Anyone who speaks against his brother or judges him speaks against the law and judges it. When you judge the law, you are not keeping it, but sitting in judgment on it.

Romans 2:1
[ God's Righteous Judgment ] You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on someone else, for at whatever point you judge the other, you are condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

Luke 6:37
“Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven.

Matthew 7:2
For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

Matthew 7:1
“Do not judge, or you too will be judged.

James 4:12
There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the one who is able to save and destroy. But you–who are you to judge your neighbor?

Romans 14:4
Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

Romans 14:10
You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat.

1 Corinthians 4:5
Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time; wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time each will receive his praise from God.

1 Corinthians 6:5
I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers?

and of course the classic
John 8:7
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.

John 13:34
A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

John 15:12
This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.

John 15:17
These things I command you, that ye love one another.

Mark 12:31
And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Matthew 22:39
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Matthew 25:40
‘I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'
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"Don't pass judgment, so you won't be judged. Don't forget, the judgment you hand out will be the judgment you get back. And the standard you use will be the standard used on you. Why do you notice the speck in your neighbor's eye, but overlook the timber in your own? How can you say to your neighbor, "Let me get the speck out of your eye, when there is that timber in your own? You phony, first take the timber out of your own eye and then you'll see well enough to remove the speck from your neighbor's eye." (Matthew 7:1-5 Scholars Version)
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I know I'm a sinner. Do you acknowledge being a sinner?
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In fact, the Jews had a hand in conspiring to have Jesus caught and tried, yet we all know that Judaism isn't more violent than other religions.

To Jefferson: Just to let you know, on the HIV thread I don't usually tout my agnosticism unless somebody touts their religious zealousness and/or idiocy, both of whic you displayed with flying colors. I have a feeling these are the colors.

You're a MORON.

I've not said anything religious. You are still confusing me with your gay friend Trista.

I've consistently called him out for his hypocrisy of claiming to be this wonderful Christian, yet knowingly LYING to the American Red Cross and giving blood they don't want - and placing innocent people at risk.

He's a sick bastard, and I find it incredibly insane that you defend that.



And for your information, you little dick, I drive a Volvo - and it's gold in color - with no confederate flag on top. But I'm glad you were able to get up on the silo and take a picture of your car.
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