I know about that church. Yes, it is homo friendly and they say Christ-centered. The problem is they do not believe the bible. They believe certain parts and that is their perogative. It's a free country. However, the bible is very clear in the old and new testament that homosexuality is not acceptable in the Christian church. That is why you hear all the fuss from the major denominations in recent years about ordaining homos. For 2000 years in the church there was never any question about homosexuality being sin. Now social pressures are making entire denominations change their beliefs. Usually, they are denominations that are losing members anyway. The churches that are growing are the nondenominational churches who are becoming the only ones teaching the entire bible as the word of God that denominations used to do. You will not find practicing homos in bible teaching churches. There are a lot of ex-homos in those churches though. I can guarantee you that. Exodus has been instrumental in helping thousands of homos change their lives and get straightened out. The homo propganda though continually demonizes Exodus for their good work though. That is just outright peer pressure because they can't have anyone getting set free of homosexuality because that destroys their propaganda message that people are born that way.

How am I doing there tristanrobin. Pretty much right on and ignorant, huh. LOL

The typical line of pro-homosexual "churches" is, "Yes, that's what is written in the Bible, but that's not what it means."

It's kind of like saying, "He says the grass is green, but he means the grass is orange."

As believers in God, as those trusting in the salvation that Christ Jesus brought, we must square with certain Biblical record.

Seriously, is this the inerrant, infallible Word of God that demonstrates the revelation of a God who is love?

OD

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Maybe you're confusing "the god of love" with a touchy-feely diety who just likes everybody and everything.

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We are all better off if we can say that several times a day, I think. (but then again, I don't know!!! )

But what you said about the God of love and a touchy feely deity, I did not get that, Jefferson. You mean that the atrocities recorded in Scripture, many said to have been done by God or at his command is consistent with the God that revealed himself to you as Savior who wills that none perish?

Maybe fundamentalism is not seeing the forest for the trees, and confusing a book for God?

OD

I've heard it said that the Old Testament reveals the justice, perfection and righteousness of God - and the New Testament reveals his grace, love and mercy.

I've also heard it said that the Old Testament reveals that God is, and demands, perfection - and that the New Testament reveals that God makes it possible for humans, who cannot do it themselves.


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A God who loves only those who are loyal to him, maybe. I really don't get a warm mushy feeling from the old testament. Love, other than between family, doesn't seem to get much real attention until Christ comes into play, and even then, it's about loving God and platonic compassionate love. I think that love and compassion are a big part of what made Christianity it's own religion. Up until Christ, there didn't seem to be too much written about forgiveness, mercy and others of the ways that I would view love to be understood.

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Is being cool important? Hmmm... I don't know!

OD

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Oh, Dear A God who loves only those who are loyal to him, maybe. I really don't get a warm mushy feeling from the old testament. Love, other than between family, doesn't seem to get much real attention until Christ comes into play, and even then, it's about loving God and platonic compassionate love. I think that love and compassion are a big part of what made Christianity it's own religion. Up until Christ, there didn't seem to be too much written about forgiveness, mercy and others of the ways that I would view love to be understood

shared Teeth and Claws.

Yes, so is that an accurate and perfect portrayal of the God we claim to know? Or is the Bible a record of how man in a progressive way, came to know Him?

And Teeth, thank you for those words, they said something that I think I was trying to...or at least, I recognize your words as those that needed to be said.

OD

I believe God loves every person no matter what. Yes, even Hitler. However, God gave man free will to make his own choice. We reap what we sow. That is a spiritual law as well as an agricultural law. If someone lives a life of sin without seeking redemption, his fate is his own choice, not God's.